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yoki
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 08:33 pm |
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One notable poster over at C*RM goes by the name of HowardHolmes. The fundies are quite stymied by this guy and after they strain their little brains and finally realize that they are stymied, they can only resort to personal attacks. But fundies and their abuse is overlooked at C*RM, as usual. However, non-fundies have still to watch out because they get bullied and baited.
And no, I don't post there any more and haven't for a very long time, but just look - to deflect the ones given to gossip from the broke board, and who like to cause their own brand of trouble.
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yoki
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Posted: Fri Aug 28th, 2009 02:55 am |
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Posted: Fri Aug 28th, 2009 11:11 pm |
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yoki wrote: Blah!
That have anything to do with the "Hitler was not evil" thread?
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yoki
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Posted: Fri Aug 28th, 2009 11:57 pm |
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Tyrrho wrote: yoki wrote: Blah!
That have anything to do with the "Hitler was not evil" thread?
Yes, and his other threads.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 12:32 am |
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yoki wrote: Tyrrho wrote: yoki wrote: Blah!
That have anything to do with the "Hitler was not evil" thread?
Yes, and his other threads.
I hope the other threads are better. I wasn't impressed by that one.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 01:43 am |
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Tyrrho wrote: yoki wrote: Blah!
That have anything to do with the "Hitler was not evil" thread?
what'd he say about that?
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 04:48 am |
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met wrote: Tyrrho wrote: yoki wrote: Blah!
That have anything to do with the "Hitler was not evil" thread?
what'd he say about that?
He starts with the idea that no man does evil intentionally, because if he recognized it as evil, he wouldn't do it. I strongly suspect that there are exceptions, but I'd be willing to grant him this.
He leaps from there to the idea that no one is evil, presumably because in order to be evil, you would have to do evil intentionally.
Ordinarily, I would just attribute this to a strange definition of "evil", but when asked if he thought there was much difference between Hitler and Jesus, he gave this response:
"I believe that both of them (just like you, me and all humans) did the best they could and meant well. I would have no qualms about being friends with either. I have never met a bad person, do not believe they exist, and have no fear of meeting one."
At this point, I strongly considered jumping into the discussion, but I really don't think I have enough in common with the guy to make it worthwhile.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 05:50 am |
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ooo ok, that's the Socrates thing then . . .
we could just replace 'evil' with 'dysfunctional' or 'pathological' and ask him if he'd wanna let a known child molester babysit his children, or if he'd ever wanna have dinner with Hannibal Lector should such a person really exist 
i suppose the concept of 'evil' is, at least, a more emotionally-loaded one than 'dysfunctional' or 'pathological' ... but in practice we prolly treat those we judge to be any of those things in simlar ways
ps BTW, I'm pretty sure that guys not jewish, right? 
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 08:17 am |
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Tyrrho wrote: He starts with the idea that no man does evil intentionally, because if he recognized it as evil, he wouldn't do it. I strongly suspect that there are exceptions, but I'd be willing to grant him this.
He leaps from there to the idea that no one is evil, presumably because in order to be evil, you would have to do evil intentionally.
Ordinarily, I would just attribute this to a strange definition of "evil",
Do you make a distinction between "being evil", and "doing evil"?
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 01:54 pm |
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Henry Sidgwick wrote: Tyrrho wrote: He starts with the idea that no man does evil intentionally, because if he recognized it as evil, he wouldn't do it. I strongly suspect that there are exceptions, but I'd be willing to grant him this.
He leaps from there to the idea that no one is evil, presumably because in order to be evil, you would have to do evil intentionally.
Ordinarily, I would just attribute this to a strange definition of "evil",
Do you make a distinction between "being evil", and "doing evil"?
Yes. "Being evil" would indicate a propensity for "doing evil", whereas "doing evil" on rare occasions, especially under extenuating circumstances, would probably not mean that a person "is evil".
If the stories that have been told are true, then Saddam Hussein and his sons would certainly fall into the category of "being evil".
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 05:24 pm |
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Henry Sidgwick wrote: Tyrrho wrote: He starts with the idea that no man does evil intentionally, because if he recognized it as evil, he wouldn't do it. I strongly suspect that there are exceptions, but I'd be willing to grant him this.
He leaps from there to the idea that no one is evil, presumably because in order to be evil, you would have to do evil intentionally.
Ordinarily, I would just attribute this to a strange definition of "evil",
Do you make a distinction between "being evil", and "doing evil"?
Do you make a distinction between 'evil' and 'hurtful' ??
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