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yoki Dialogue Facilitator 
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... and just have a gay old time with all your celebrations, ya hear? |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator 
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Seconded...have a great July 4, my American friends!  |
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Carol2 Dialogue Facilitator 
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Thanks. The weather isn't cooperating for the pool party we planned, but we will be having a BBQ and watching the fireworks the next door neighbor will no doubt be blowing up over the pond behind my house. |
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manonfire Manofire 
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Carol2 wrote:Thanks. The weather isn't cooperating for the pool party we planned, but we will be having a BBQ and watching the fireworks the next door neighbor will no doubt be blowing up over the pond behind my house. Carol, Aldaron said friends, do you consider yourself his friend? If so, I have some ocean front property to sale you in El Paso. |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Carol2 wrote: Trust Hiram to try and crush a gesture of good will. |
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manonfire Manofire
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yoki wrote:manonfire wrote:Carol2 wrote: Just being truthful, you should try that some time. It will give you a warm fuzzy feeling! |
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Carol2 Dialogue Facilitator
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I'm just gonna go ahead and plead the fifth here... |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: yoki wrote: Truth? That is a fine excuse to use for insulting someone offering a kind gesture. Hiram, you did not have a very good upbringing it seems. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator 
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Thanks, Yoki. hiram and carol are just being true to form.... he has to say something hateful to try and throw a wet blanket over everybody else's happiness, trying to make us all as miserable as he is (it doesn't work) -- no surprise there she refuses to answer if she considers Aldaron a friend.... no surprise there either. Lucky our happiness doesn't depend on either of them. Happy Fourth, everybody. |
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J. Sloan Registration Removed : Please Re-Register and Post
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Hey...even complete idiots like yoki spoki and Merlin has an itching burning are Americans. Dumb Americans, but Americans nonetheless. |
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Carol2 Dialogue Facilitator
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Merlin wrote: Thanks, Yoki.Of course your happiness doesn't depend on us. Why would it? First I get accused of being two faced, then I get accused of being true to form. Lol! There aint no pleasing some people. |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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J. Sloan wrote: Hey...even complete idiots like yoki spoki and Merlin has an itching burning are Americans. Dumb Americans, but Americans nonetheless. Yoki is a dumb Canadian. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Hey...even complete idiots like yoki spoki and Merlin has an itching burning are Americans. Dumb Americans, but Americans nonetheless. My family has been in this country since before the American Revolution. I don't need you to tell me a goddamned thing. Should I call you by your new name, "The Patient?" They got you leashed down pretty good on CARM, huh? I agree that's even better than banning your dumb ass. Last edited on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 04:04 am by Merlin |
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manonfire Manofire
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Carol2 wrote:I'm just gonna go ahead and plead the fifth here... Why not have the courage to take a stand, Carol? Now, if you consider him to be your friend, that's fine and dandy. However, if you consider yourself to be his friend, then you have lost touch with reality. |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Carol2 wrote: Now Hiram is ordering other fundies around, telling them what to do and how to think. btw Hiram, you seem very quick to label other people insane or losing touch with reality. That does say something you know, about you. |
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Merlin Shut up. P.S. And not just the patient, but Dennis (an atheist) and Diet Coke (an agnostic) too! Last edited on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 05:35 pm by |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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J. Sloan wrote: Merlin Shut up. Another arrogant asshole ordering people around. How cute. Or, were you just joking this time too Sloan?  Last edited on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 05:38 pm by yoki |
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manonfire Manofire
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A guy who takes a picture of his pussy, and exposes it as his avatar, well, that does say something you know, about you. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Shut up. That only works on your wife, sloan, not on me. Isn't it interesting that "one of your friends" who came to your house and used your computer, tried to crack the CARM Admin console 5 times the other night? Don't you know that every time you register with another name or try to hack them, thier security system alerts them? & You don't like my ancestry, sloan? Tough shit. You're nothing but common rabble.... deal with it. |
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Merlin wrote:Shut up. I don't recall saying anything about your ancestry, Merlin. However, no one from my house and none of my friends tried to crack anything at CARM. I have no interest in hacking CARM and I certainly would not go about it by signing up with a different username, and I would never be so stupid as to to use the same computer, IP, etc. etc. if I did. Diane emailed me about similar IPs trying to hack CARM and the reason that there are similar IPs is because of the way IP addresses are structured. A similar IP in no way implies that it is from the same house, state, region, etc. Maybe if you guys learned some basic stuff about computers you would understand this. If I were Matt and Diane, I would log the IP addresses and their activity and report them. It's as simple as that. I doubt much could be done about someone trying to log into an admin account, but I would report any suspicious activity regardless. That is precisely why I have nothing to worry about -- none of those IP addies will be traced back to me and for a very good reason, I am not the person(s) trying to gain access to CARM. I don't hack people's computers, Merlin. And I don't send people viruses. Those are script kiddy wanna be hackers, not real hackers. Don't confuse the two. Last edited on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 07:32 pm by |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Wow, is there another J. Sloan on CARM who told Diane that somebody visiting his house and using his computer generated all those extra accounts? Did you know that while you weren't looking, they tried to hack into the Admin console from your ISP? I had no idea that you were just as much of an immature pest on CARM as you are here.... way to go, jimmy. Oh... Diane says to email her if you have questions about whether I've ever been banned from CARM. You might as well, because apparently you email her about every other damned thing. I'll make sure to relay to Matt your suggestion that he "learn something about computers." That's guaranteed to make him even happier with you. Last edited on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 07:50 pm by Merlin |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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J. Sloan wrote: Merlin wrote: Hmmmm, now that was a rather articulate reply Sloan. What happened to the down home folksy kinda guy? And you seem to use that phrase, "script kiddy wanna be hackers," as someone who is quite knowledgable about computer hackers and computer hacking. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Oh, he's well-known as a hacker on CARM. They allow him one character, monitor him all the time, and every time their security goes off and tells them he's trying to sign in with a new account, they delete it. I find it hilarious that he swears to them he isn't the one coming on the board under different names ( a violation of CARM policy) but instead it's somebody else who also uses his computer, but he doesn't know who it is. |
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Merlin I find it hilarious that he swears to them he isn't the one coming on the board under different names ( a violation of CARM policy) but instead it's somebody else who also uses his computer, but he doesn't know who it is. Once again, you are confusing the actual facts (which you are lacking) with your perception of the facts. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:Oh, he's well-known as a hacker on CARM. They allow him one character, monitor him all the time, and every time their security goes off and tells them he's trying to sign in with a new account, they delete it. I find it hilarious that he swears to them he isn't the one coming on the board under different names ( a violation of CARM policy) but instead it's somebody else who also uses his computer, but he doesn't know who it is. Merlin, most posters here are trying to stay away from CARM, however, you keep bringing it here. I for one don't care what anyone is doing or not doing at CARM. So, why don't you keep CARM business over at CARM? Thank you. |
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manonfire wrote:Merlin wrote: Merl is a trouble maker. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Once again, you are confusing the actual facts (which you are lacking) with your perception of the facts. That's not MY perception, sloan, nor my facts. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Merlin, most posters here are trying to stay away from CARM, however, you keep bringing it here. I for one don't care what anyone is doing or not doing at CARM. So, why don't you keep CARM business over at CARM? Thank you. I remember when your dumb ass was banned from there, hiram. It was amusing. jimbo, though, doesn't "stay away from CARM." He posts there under multiple accounts (for a day or so, until they're deleted) and "someone using his computer" repeatedly violates their rules. Whoever thaqt person is, he's a meek little good chrisshun but jimmy tries to act all ballsy over here. Isn't that unbelievable? If you don't want to know about CARM, don't lip-read my posts, k? I don't recall directing any of them to you. You're welcome. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Merl is a trouble maker. jimmers, you've made your own trouble over there. I don't think they like you very much, no matter how much you toady when you're on their board. Remember that Di said to ask her personally if I've ever been banned from there. I nevr was, which is more than you can say. Hell, it's more than you can say in the average month on their boards. Last edited on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 10:40 pm by Merlin |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:Merlin, most posters here are trying to stay away from CARM, however, you keep bringing it here. I for one don't care what anyone is doing or not doing at CARM. So, why don't you keep CARM business over at CARM? Thank you. I remember when your dumb ass was banned from there, hiram. It was amusing. As usual, you got your facts screwed up. I was never banned from CARM, I was suspended once or twice. I can go there and post any time I want. Now stop being disobediant, and do what I tell you. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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As usual, you got your facts screwed up. I was never banned from CARM, I was suspended once or twice. I can go there and post any time I want. "Banned" doesn't mean for life, dillweed. There's only one person banned for life from CARM. She's a friend of mine and maybe some day you can meet her. She has a very interesting personality. If you're suspended enough times, the suspensions become a ban for up to a year & yes, you were banned. Yoda too. The time may be up by now, but that doesn't mean you weren't kicked off there. Don't bother to go back there, hiram... you're not smart enough to work around their rules and will just get kicked off again. Now stop being disobediant, and do what I tell you. That's getting boring, hiram. You're really stuck in a rut lately.... posting dozens of your conservative emails and having sex fantasies. Get a new schtick, will you? Last edited on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 11:05 pm by Merlin |
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Merlin wrote:Merl is a trouble maker. Obviously you have no clue what you are saying (big surprise). I can, and still do, log in to CARM. What exactly is the problem, Merlin? I can't wait to see how you will twist this one. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 01:17 am by |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Here's the deal, jimmuh: the powers that be at CARM want you on a leash where they can watch you. I agree with them and didn't push for you to be banned-- again. Apparently you take care of that on your own often enough that nobody has to help it along. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:Here's the deal, jimmuh: the powers that be at CARM want you on a leash where they can watch you. I agree with them and didn't push for you to be banned-- again. Apparently you take care of that on your own often enough that nobody has to help it along. Would someone please tell me how on earth did Merlin and the infamous Diane from CARM got to be so close. PM me if you want. It seems like a very bizarre connection between the two. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 02:00 am by manonfire |
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manonfire Manofire
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Thanks for the info., yoki. It now makes sense to me. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Aw, you don't like it, hiram? Tough titties. She thought you and yoda were two of the most boring trolls ever to hit thier boards. That's pretty sad. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:Aw, you don't like it, hiram? Tough titties. I don't believe yoda ever trolled that board, but I don't know for sure. However, I do know that I never did. The only forum I ever went on over there was the Freemason forum. Btw, I had a different user name and a different computer, and a different location that I was posting from. It's interesting how your friend, Diane, would know who I am to be able to say that I was a boring troll. Of course, we know that she didn't say that, and you are making shit up again. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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However, I do know that I never did. Sure you do, hiram. She mentioned you and Yoda by name. You weren't just trolls, you were BORING trolls. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:However, I do know that I never did. Really? Then what name did she give me? |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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How the hell do I know? The conversation took place probably 2 or 3 years ago. I THINK it was Hiram Abiff but I honestly don't remember. I know she said she had to suspend both of you. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 02:41 am by Merlin |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:How the hell do I know? The conversation took place probably 2 or 3 years ago. That's what I thought, you are full of shit. Hell you remember shit I said 4-5 years ago. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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It's OK, hiram, very few people can last on CARM without getting booted. I understand that you're not very sophisticated or smart enough to work around the system. You're in good company here. How does it feel to get suspended and banned over there? I don't have any firsthand knowledge of that, but I know you do. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:How the hell do I know? The conversation took place probably 2 or 3 years ago. I THINK it was Hiram Abiff but I honestly don't remember. I THINK it was Hiram Abiff but I honestly don't remember. Hiram: You are funny. Nope, that wasn't my handle over there, not even close. Just admit it, Merlin, you are full of shit. Btw, what was yoda's username on CARM? |
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Merlin I don't have any firsthand knowledge Smartest thing you ever said. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 03:30 am by |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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jimmy, it's incredible that people there have exactly the same opinion of you that people here have: that you're an immature little pain in the ass and most likely an alcoholic. And your only defense is "that's not TRUE you're a LIAR." Try and keep your "friends" from hacking CARM from your computer for a couple of days, k? |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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I'll ask Diane if she remembers what your user names were, troll hiram. If she does, fine, if not fine-- but it doesn't change the facts that you didn't last long enough for the water to get hot there before you were kicked off the boards. Some people here... limana, Aldaron.... posted there for years and weren't suspended. Others, like you and jimbo, got kicked out before you got there good. |
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Merlin wrote:jimmy, it's incredible that people there have exactly the same opinion of you that people here have: that you're an immature little pain in the ass and most likely an alcoholic. LOL. Your only offense is to make things up that are false and twist the few facts that you do have and then accuse others of defending themselves against your ridiculous claims. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 04:28 am by |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:I'll ask Diane if she remembers what your user names were, troll hiram. If she does, fine, if not fine-- but it doesn't change the facts that you didn't last long enough for the water to get hot there before you were kicked off the boards. Well, Like I said, you are full of shit. I posted there for several years. I can go back and post right now. I could of posted there 3 years ago. I was only suspended for a very short time. You should know how CARM and Diane operates. If a person who is paying into their kitty complains about you, you are suspended. He who pays stay, and those who don't had better not piss off those who do. That's the reason you, limana, and aldaron have been allowed to stay that long. |
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...nevermind. Not worth it. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 05:05 am by |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Not worth it. Talking about yourself again? |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Well, Like I said, you are full of shit. Oh, give me a little time, hiram, and I'll run down your name on CARM. I posted there for several years. I can go back and post right now. And you'll get thrown off just as quick, probably quicker. I could of posted there 3 years ago. I was only suspended for a very short time. Do I have to explain "suspension" a few more times? No ban there is lifetime except in the case of one poster from their past. You should know how CARM and Diane operates. No, I haven't managed to figure it out yet. If a person who is paying into their kitty complains about you, you are suspended. Matt had major contributors leave CARM because he wouldn't ban me from the boards. The homo-haters there complained about me probably a trillion times and I was never suspended even for a day. He who pays stay, and those who don't had better not piss off those who do. Horseshit. He who is a shit-starting troll gets booted because nobody wants to spend time chasing a troll around. That's the reason you, limana, and aldaron have been allowed to stay that long. Limana voluntarily left there years ago... so did Aldaron, and I left about a year and a half ago. None of us was ever suspended or banned, and there are a couple more here who never were either. The reason I've been on and off CARM since 1998 without getting banned or suspended is because I'm not as dumb as you and jim are. There's ways to work around any rule... but you're not quite intelligent enough to pull that off. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:Well, Like I said, you are full of shit. Oh, give me a little time, hiram, and I'll run down your name on CARM. I posted there for several years. I can go back and post right now. And you'll get thrown off just as quick, probably quicker. I could of posted there 3 years ago. I was only suspended for a very short time. Do I have to explain "suspension" a few more times? No ban there is lifetime except in the case of one poster from their past. You should know how CARM and Diane operates. No, I haven't managed to figure it out yet. If a person who is paying into their kitty complains about you, you are suspended. Matt had major contributors leave CARM because he wouldn't ban me from the boards. The homo-haters there complained about me probably a trillion times and I was never suspended even for a day. He who pays stay, and those who don't had better not piss off those who do. Horseshit. He who is a shit-starting troll gets booted because nobody wants to spend time chasing a troll around. That's the reason you, limana, and aldaron have been allowed to stay that long. Limana voluntarily left there years ago... so did Aldaron, and I left about a year and a half ago. None of us was ever suspended or banned, and there are a couple more here who never were either. No Merlin, I'm more honest and not near as phony as you and your cronies. I tell it like it is, and let the chips fall where they may. Besides why would you and aldaron want to be deceitful in order to stay on a board you despised? |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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No Merlin, I'm more honest and not near as phony as you and your cronies. hiram, I've never once lied in anything I've said on these boards or CARM. I'm the most un-phony person you've ever met. I don't have "cronies." You, OTOH, are a troll and only here to start shit and flame and insult. Hell, all you've done for the past 2 weeks here is cut and paste crap off blogs and from emails and then flame every discussion that your posts started. I tell it like it is, No, you don't really tell much of anything. You cut and paste and then flame. and let the chips fall where they may. Is it "letting the chips fall where they may" the other night when you told the father of a child with Down's Syndrome to "take his fucking ugly kids and get off the board?" Is that what you call your miserable, nasty attitude? Besides why would you and aldaron want to be deceitful in order to stay on a board you despised? Are you so reading comprehension challenged that you have managed to miss the part about "no longer there?" No, you read it.... you're just being true to your troll nature. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:No Merlin, I'm more honest and not near as phony as you and your cronies. hiram, I've never once lied in anything I've said on these boards or CARM. I'm the most un-phony person you've ever met. I don't have "cronies." You, OTOH, are a troll and only here to start shit and flame and insult. Hell, all you've done for the past 2 weeks here is cut and paste crap off blogs and from emails and then flame every discussion that your posts started. I tell it like it is, No, you don't really tell much of anything. You cut and paste and then flame. and let the chips fall where they may. Is it "letting the chips fall where they may" the other night when you told the father of a child with Down's Syndrome to "take his fucking ugly kids and get off the board?" Is that what you call your miserable, nasty attitude? Besides why would you and aldaron want to be deceitful in order to stay on a board you despised? Are you so reading comprehension challenged that you have managed to miss the part about "no longer there?" You, OTOH, are a troll and only here to start shit and flame and insult. Well, according to your definition of troll, it would include just about everyone on this board, especially you. Should I provide examples? |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Merlin wrote: I never paid a cent into CARM's kitty. I'd give it to the Salvos long before I'd give it to Slick and his ilk. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Aldaron wrote:manonfire wrote:Merlin wrote: OK, then you were being a phony like Merlin. If you would of voiced your true beliefs at CARM, you nor Merlin, could of lasted one day without getting banned. |
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote: I voiced my true beliefs at CARM for many years without getting banned, even once. Walked away voluntarily. |
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What is this "CARM" you guys speak of? |
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Carol2 Dialogue Facilitator
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What is the definition of troll anyway?? I always thought it was someone who pretended to be someone else...kinda like Belvidere's trolls, or Ronson's Sigmund Freud character. |
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A troll is a many splendored thing. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote: Are you nuts? I had thousands of posts on CARM from 1998 to 2004. Most of them were on the Abortion board and the Evolution board, and every single one of them said exactly what I thought. I had raging arguments with Matt Slick and Diane Sellner, not to mention dozens, if not hundreds of others. Go over there and ask KT or Coadie if they think I was pretending not to be an atheist. There was no doubt in the mind of anyone over there where I stood. Do you seriously think they just banned anyone who was an atheist? They banned (well, suspended) people who went too far in what they said - I was suspended a couple of times - but the only time there were mass suspensions was around the birth of this board. And most of the people who left CARM then - myself included - did so voluntarily. If you think I was a "phony" on CARM, ask any of your Christian friends here if they thought I misrepresented myself over there: Carol, Toni, Stiggy, Wayne, Cajun - go ahead. Ask 'em. |
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Carol2 wrote: What is the definition of troll anyway?? Trolls live under bridges. I have a really cool apartment with several throw rugs and a coffee table. |
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AyHyperbole Dialogue Follower
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Carol2 wrote: What is the definition of troll anyway?? I always thought it was someone who pretended to be someone else...kinda like Belvidere's trolls, or Ronson's Sigmund Freud character. The word "troll" comes from the fishing term "to troll" - the technique where you bait a line and slowly drag it through the water. So, basically, a "troll" post is a post that's only made for the purpose of getting people to respond in certain ways. It's where the poster isn't writing for the purpose of communication or expressing his opinion: he's writing to get reactions. So, a troll can take many forms. One of the funniest trolls I've seen was a guy who simply wrote "What did Michael Stipe mean when he wrote the lyric 'Mr. Charles Darwin had the gall to ask?'" - and then he cross-posted his question to an R.E.M. newsgroup, a Metallica newsgroup, an atheist newgroup, two Christian newsgroups, a Muslim newsgroup, and a football newsgroup. Not surprisingly, absolute anarchy broke loose - and the original poster just sat back with a big grin on his face, having caused it all with one question and some creative cross-posting. Really, then, Belevedere isn't a traditional troll. What he's doing is often comedy and often some kind of interpretive political theater, but he isn't trolling in the traditional sense of the word. And neither is hiram. It's obvious to me that hiram believes what he says, and isn't just trying to elicit hilarious responses from people gullible enough to fall for it. It takes brains to troll; hiram doesn't have those. Of course, because the fishing-related verb "troll" is the same word as the noun meaning "ugly guy who lives under a bridge," it didn't take long before some people started using "troll" to mean "a poster who is unpleasant" - but we purists reject that meaning. |
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Carol2 Dialogue Facilitator
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Yep, declin was always an atheist. Are you guys saying you don't think Hiram is who he says he is? I'd say his character has been pretty consistant. The only poster, off the top of my head, I can think of that demonstrates troll like activity is Yoda. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 04:56 pm by Carol2 |
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Carol2 Dialogue Facilitator
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Sigmund Freud wrote: Carol2 wrote:Throw rugs and a coffee table? Nice!What is the definition of troll anyway??  |
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manonfire Manofire
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Carol2 wrote:What is the definition of troll anyway?? I always thought it was someone who pretended to be someone else...kinda like Belvidere's trolls, or Ronson's Sigmund Freud character. Like you, Carol, that's what I thought. However, with Merlin's new definition, it has opened Trolldom up to most all of us. Examples: When yoki starts with his Bible God hate speech, bam, this makes him a troll. Or, when our board atheists do their usual rants about we Christians being ignorant and stupid, bam, this makes them trolls. When Merlin starts with her pro gay/lesbian/ cross-gender/same gender marriage crap, is she not inflaming the threads? Hell, IDK, maybe Belvedere and Sigmund Freud are the only ones here who are not trolls... |
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manonfire wrote: Carol2 wrote: Hype gave a good definition and explanation of a "troll" Hiram. It is too bad that your lips are so tired you haven't the inclination to read other's posts. |
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yoki wrote:manonfire wrote:Carol2 wrote: His post wasn't visible to me when I wrote mine. I agree that his definition is way superior to that of Merlin's. |
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Aldaron wrote:manonfire wrote:Merlin wrote: Calm down, you're becoming very emotional. I believe you. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Well, according to your definition of troll, it would include just about everyone on this board, especially you. Should I provide examples? Every hour that passes by, I'm getting less interested in anything you have to say, hiram. You do nothing here except post cut and pastes from your fringe group Texas newsletter and flame anyone and everyone who responds to you. |
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If you would of voiced your true beliefs at CARM, you nor Merlin, could of lasted one day without getting banned. Email Diane and ask her if you're correct, hiram. Put your money where your mouth is for a change. |
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with Merlin's new definition, it has opened Trolldom up to most all of us Notice how hiram capitalizes "Trolldom?" That's because he holds it in such high regard. I have no "new" definition of troll. A troll is someone who posts just to get people to react and argue so that he can sit back and be amused-- and that's exactly what you do. You never deviate from your pattern of posting some kind of inflammatory rightwing political garbage and then flaming anybody and everybody who responds to it. You're a troll. I don't know why anybody here responds to you on any other basis. I'll trade insults with you, but I sure won't engage you in any kind of serious conversation because you're not interested in doing so. It would be a total waste of time for anybody who tried it-- as they've all learned from experience with you. Examples: When yoki starts with his Bible God hate speech, bam, this makes him a troll. No it doesn't, because yoki doesn't flame anyone who responds. Yoki also has a track record here of producing many different kinds of posts.... unlike you, who only post rightwing political cut and pastes. Or, when our board atheists do their usual rants about we Christians being ignorant and stupid, There are very few atheists on this board and they have always been outnumbered by christians. The reason people say you act ignorant and stupid is because you act ignorant and stupid. You'd be ignorant and stupid no matter what religion you were. Incidentally, you're not a christian and everyone here knows it. bam, this makes them trolls. See above reasons why you're a troll. When Merlin starts with her pro gay/lesbian/ cross-gender/same gender marriage crap, is she not inflaming the threads? That's beautiful syntax: "is she not inflaming the threads?" No, mister semi-literate, I'm not "inflaming the threads." I'm not sure if your mind can grasp this fact, but not everyone hates gays like you do. Hell, IDK, maybe Belvedere and Sigmund Freud are the only ones here who are not trolls... Even they don't want anything to do with you, troll. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 07:06 pm by Merlin |
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Merlin wrote:with Merlin's new definition, it has opened Trolldom up to most all of us You're a troll. I don't know why anybody here responds to you on any other basis. Hiram: Ok, I'll bite, so why do you? It would be a total waste of time for anybody who tried it-- as they've all learned from experience with you. And yet, you all continue wasting your time doing exactly what you said. I wonder why that is...is it that you have no self discipline? Let's be perfectly clear, Merlin. You try to marginalize anyone of us who don't buy into your left-wing radical bullshit by calling us trolls. How is that tactic working for you? |
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You're a troll. I don't know why anybody here responds to you on any other basis. Hiram: Ok, I'll bite, so why do you? Er, do you notice that I'll trade insults with you but won't get into any kind of discussion of a topic with you? It would be a total waste of time for anybody who tried it-- as they've all learned from experience with you. And yet, you all continue wasting your time doing exactly what you said. I wonder why that is...is it that you have no self discipline? I post on AARM when I'm stuck at the computer doing schoolwork and I want a break or when I'm waiting for laundry to dry or some other equally mundane activity. I hate to tell you that answering your posts doesn't come high on my list of things to do in life, hiram.... just something to do slightly less boring than staring at the wall. If I was a TV watcher or video gamer, I wouldn't even bother to check in here once a month. Let's be perfectly clear, Merlin. You try to marginalize anyone of us who don't buy into your left-wing radical bullshit by calling us trolls. How is that tactic working for you? I have accused only two people here of being trolls: you and yoda. Yoda is no more christian than a rock and only trolls here to amuse himself between trying to set up fake New Age religions and you are as bad a troll as he is. Do you think you're fooling ANYBODY here? If you think that, guess again. You know who marginalizes you? Your own nasty attitudes. |
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Merlin said: Er, do you notice that I'll trade insults with you but won't get into any kind of discussion of a topic with you? Er, that's because you realize your own limitations. Merlin said: Do you think you're fooling ANYBODY here? Uh, about what? I've been very explicit about why I'm here. 1) I enjoy pissing off liberals, and 2) trying to open up their little minds and steer them away from fucking up my country. |
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manonfire wrote: Uh, about what? I've been very explicit about why I'm here. 1) I enjoy pissing off liberals, and 2) trying to open up their little minds and steer them away from fucking up my country. And this after your own hand-picked President spent eight years fucking up our country on a scale never before seen. |
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Uh, about what? I've been very explicit about why I'm here. 1) I enjoy pissing off liberals, Do you really think you "piss off" liberals here or anywhere else? Nobody takes anything you say seriously enough to get pissed off, hiram. But your own admission here proves you're a troll. and 2) trying to open up their little minds and steer them away from fucking up my country. The last one is a total lie.... if you were interested in changing liberals to your point of view, you wouldn't flame every response they make. Was it part of your strategy to convert "liberals" the other night when you told an AARM father of a child with Down's syndrome, "take your ugly fucking kids and get out of here?" Is that an example of how you "discuss" things with people? From your nasty attitude and the amount of anger you've been displacing the last couple of weeks around here, hoss, I'd say things aren't going so well for you in real life. Tsk, tsk. |
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Merlin wrote:Uh, about what? I've been very explicit about why I'm here. 1) I enjoy pissing off liberals, Do you really think you "piss off" liberals here or anywhere else? Nobody takes anything you say seriously enough to get pissed off, hiram. But your own admission here proves you're a troll. and 2) trying to open up their little minds and steer them away from fucking up my country. From your nasty attitude and the amount of anger you've been displacing the last couple of weeks around here, hoss, I'd say things aren't going so well for you in real life. Tsk, tsk. If that were the case as you believe it to be, why aren't you praying for me instead of constantly throwing shit at me. You say I have a nasty attitude? You will be happy to know (smirk) that I'm doing better than any man has the right to do. In fact, if things got any better for me it would be illegal. |
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If that were the case as you believe it to be, why aren't you praying for me instead of constantly throwing shit at me. I'm a simple person in some respects.... if you're nice to me, I'm nice to you. If you insult me, I insult you. I keep telling people this.... they ignore it and make some kind of shitty insult... I go down their throat.... and they never understand why. In my life, if you let somebody abuse you once and get away with it, they'll do it again and again. The only response to insult or attempted bullying is to go in their face till they figure you are just crazy, and back off. You constantly come into threads to make some kind of nasty remark and wonder why you get one back? Have a little common sense, hiram. As fas as praying for you, I don't believe prayer affects the outcome of anything. You say I have a nasty attitude? Yeah, and it's gotten a lot worse around here lately.... you're bouncing back and forth between semi-friendliness and nastiness. That isn't your usual style. Something's up with you. You will be happy to know (smirk) that I'm doing better than any man has the right to do. In fact, if things got any better for me it would be illegal. That's nice, but it still doesn't give you the right to be so unprovoked mean around here. I can only hope you don't treat your family and associates the way you treat people on AARM. |
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Merlin wrote:If that were the case as you believe it to be, why aren't you praying for me instead of constantly throwing shit at me. I'm a simple person in some respects.... if you're nice to me, I'm nice to you. If you insult me, I insult you. I keep telling people this.... they ignore it and make some kind of shitty insult... I go down their throat.... and they never understand why. In my life, if you let somebody abuse you once and get away with it, they'll do it again and again. The only response to insult or attempted bullying is to go in their face till they figure you are just crazy, and back off. Hiram: If you get rid of your ugly avatar, I promise that I will be a more kinder and gentler guy as much as possible. I'm a simple person in some respects.... if you're nice to me, I'm nice to you. If you insult me, I insult you. I keep telling people this.... they ignore it and make some kind of shitty insult... I go down their throat.... and they never understand why. In my life, if you let somebody abuse you once and get away with it, they'll do it again and again. The only response to insult or attempted bullying is to go in their face till they figure you are just crazy, and back off. Hiram: You and I are more alike than you probably care to admit to. |
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I'm very much like you, hiram. I grew up with literally a thousand just like you. That's why even though I say you troll the board, I will always maintain your character is real. You could be easily one of the Bircher boys who graduated 3 years before me in my christian high school. I'm a product of my time, and so are you. That's why when you refer to me as a liberal, I have to laugh. I don't trust you so I'll change my avatar when I'm damned good and ready, even though it was already getting on my nerves. I don't want you to go all pussy on me, though. An insult here and there is fine. |
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Merlin wrote:I'm very much like you, hiram. I grew up with literally a thousand just like you. That's why even though I say you troll the board, I will always maintain your character is real. You could be easily one of the Bircher boys who graduated 3 years before me in my christian high school. lol, ok fair enough. Don't tell anyone , but I've always liked your honesty, tenacity, and personal integrity. |
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I used to have personal integrity. It got up and went with a lot of other things. |
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Carol2 wrote: Are you guys saying you don't think Hiram is who he says he is? I don't. he's too much of a cliche to be real. I think he's exactly what Hype described, someone spouting stereotypical hard-line conservative rhetoric to get a reaction. Ever notice how he never defends his arguments, he just throws them out there and then insults everyone who disagrees? I'd say his character has been pretty consistant. Yup. Too consistent, I'd say. -- A2SG, real people aren't perect stereotypes like the one Hiram plays..... |
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Arthur Two Sheds Gumby wrote:Carol2 wrote:Are you guys saying you don't think Hiram is who he says he is? Oh, I'm the real thing alright. You are just not familiar with reality. |
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manonfire wrote: Arthur Two Sheds Gumby wrote: This from a cartoon character? -- A2SG, kinda like Spongebob, only a little less funny.... |
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Arthur Two Sheds Gumby wrote:manonfire wrote:Arthur Two Sheds Gumby wrote: What did you say, spongebob? |
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manonfire wrote: Arthur Two Sheds Gumby wrote: I stand corrected. Make that a lot less funny. -- A2SG, heck, you're not even as funny as Squidward.... |
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