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manonfire Manofire 
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Rush: Supreme Court Rules Sotomayor a Racist Monday, June 29, 2009 10:14 PM Conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh lashed out at high court nominee Judge Sonia Sotomayor Monday, describing her as a "racist at heart" after the Supreme Court reversed a decision she endorsed involving white firefighters who were denied promotions because of their race. |
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AyHyperbole Dialogue Follower 
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manonfire wrote: Rush: Supreme Court Rules Sotomayor a Racist Have you even read the facts of this case?? They look like this: The fire department New Haven, Connecticut decided they were going to base future promotions on a written test. Of the firefighters who took the written test, all of the African-Americans failed. Those firefighters complained, but did not sue. Based on the complaints, the fire department decided to withdraw the test and find a different way of assigning promotions. At that point, 20 white firefighters who had passed the test sued and said the courts should force the fire department to re-instate it. The District Court ruled that the fire department should not be forced to re-instate the test against their will. At that point, the white firefighters appealed to Sotomayor's court. What did Sotomayor have to say about that? Absolutely nothing. She just said "The District Court did not make a legal error" and affirmed its ruling. How anyone could get "THE WOMAN IS A RACIST" out of that is beyond me. Last edited on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 08:21 pm by AyHyperbole |
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Tyrrho Dialogue Follower 
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A person who (knowing all the facts) would call Sotomayor a racist is a person who would lie to keep her off the court, and whose opinions should therefore be ignored, at least with regard to this appointment. Of course, regarding Rush's opinions in general, a lot more could be said. Let's just let it suffice that "he speaks truth" is not high on the list of reasons that he is disliked by liberals. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Tyrrho wrote:A person who (knowing all the facts) would call Sotomayor a racist is a person who would lie to keep her off the court, and whose opinions should therefore be ignored, at least with regard to this appointment. Well, the woman did say that a hispanic female would make a better judge than a white man. Sounds pretty damn racist to me. |
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WingedBeast Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Tyrrho wrote: Actually, that was a quote taken out of context. The context that changed the nature of that quote moved on to say that such personal bias is actually something she has to work hard to remove from her rulings. Rush found a reality he likes and repeats it often and at volume. That's what he does. That, by the way, is also why there are a lot of thoughtful Republicans and conservatives who don't like him. He turns off discussions that could be fruitful, in either a learning experience or in terms of convincing independants, and does nothing but damage to the Republican Party. |
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manonfire Manofire
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WingedBeast wrote:manonfire wrote:Tyrrho wrote: "This case will only raise more questions in the minds of the American people concerning Judge Sotomayor's commitment to treat each individual fairly and not as a member of a group," said Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee. "It's just one more data point that she thinks it's OK to make decisions as a judge based on your own personal preferences, gender, race, background, political agenda -- instead of being a servant of the law," said Wendy Long of the Judicial Confirmation Network. Tom Fitton of the conservative group Judicial Watch said the case "puts senators in a corner, where they're going to have to say whether they will vote for someone who thought it was appropriate to discriminate based on race simply to avoid a lawsuit." Btw, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Sotomayor is a racist. Last edited on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:15 pm by manonfire |
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manonfire Manofire
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Equality On Trial By Thomas Sowell July 1, 2009 For the fourth time in six cases, the Supreme Court of the United States has reversed a decision for which Judge Sonia Sotomayor voted on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals. If this nominee were a white male, would this not raise questions about whether he should be elevated to a court that has found his previous decisions wrong two-thirds of the times when those decisions have been reviewed? Is no one supposed to ask questions about qualifications, simply because this nominee is Hispanic and a woman? Have we become that mindless? Qualifications are not simply a question of how long you have been doing something, but how well you have done it. Judge Sotomayor has certainly been on the federal bench long enough, but is being reversed four out of six times a sign of a job well done? http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/tsowell/2009/ts_07011.shtml |
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Tyrrho Dialogue Follower
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manonfire wrote: "This case will only raise more questions in the minds of the American people concerning Judge Sotomayor's commitment to treat each individual fairly and not as a member of a group," said Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Yes, we already know that right-wingers will say just about anything to try to keep her off the court. "Btw, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Sotomayor is a racist. lol If you could back that up, I'd have a much higher opinion of you.  Last edited on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:53 pm by Tyrrho |
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AyHyperbole Dialogue Follower
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I like how hiram has completely, 100% abandoned all discussion of Ricci v. DeStefano, the subject of this post, now that the facts have been presented to him. It's a shame that he now finds it necessary to continue to insist "Sotomayor is a racist," despite the fact that the one shred of evidence he's given has been completely refuted. Instead, he's invented some fantastically ridiculous story that the SCOTUS published an opinion calling her a racist. Hey, hiram, want to show us that opinion? |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator 
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AyHyperbole wrote: I like how hiram has completely, 100% abandoned all discussion of Ricci v. DeStefano, the subject of this post, now that the facts have been presented to him. I'm thinking that his opinion that Sotomayor is a racist has about as much traction as his contention that Australia is a Third World nation.  |
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WingedBeast Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: WingedBeast wrote: I'm sorry, I didn't see the "Is Sotomayor a Racist" hearing come before the Supreme Court. I certainly didn't see any Supreme Court opinions that even came close to saying so. No, what I saw was a Supreme Court ruling that the FD in this case would have had to prove that following the results fo this test would have left them vulnerable to litigation before they could follow through on what was actually already the law. By the way, I notice that your response doesn't actually respond, in any way, to what I said... at all. Don't tell me that such a strong conservative as yourself is too much a coward to actually respond to what I said. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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Personally, I find the idea that alleged Christians like Hiram would touch Limbaugh with a 10-foot barge pole to be mind-boggling. How many times has he been divorced? Three or four? What did Jesus say about divorce? What did Rush say about drug addicts? What was his position on the proper punishment for addicts, hmm? Oh! But wait...I'm sure all that changed when it came out that good ol' boy Rush is himself a drug addict. Yep, the thrice-divorced, drug-addicted Rush is a definitely the poster boy for conservatives...  |
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manonfire Manofire
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Aldaron wrote:Personally, I find the idea that alleged Christians like Hiram would touch Limbaugh with a 10-foot barge pole to be mind-boggling. How many times has he been divorced? Three or four? What did Jesus say about divorce? Well, let me see. Rush up against Bill Clinton( I never inhaled), and couldn't keep his fly closed when a long-haired women was around. Remember the blue dress? Obama who says he did inhale, and snorted cocaine. Besides, I don't recall Rush being elected to represent the people's will. I think I will go with Rush. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator 
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Well, let me see. Rush up against Bill Clinton( I never inhaled), and couldn't keep his fly closed when a long-haired women was around. Remember the blue dress? Obama who says he did inhale, and snorted cocaine. Besides, I don't recall Rush being elected to represent the people's will. How about Rush and Clinton both up against what Jesus said about adultery and divorce? He said don't lust after anyone but your spouse, don't commit adultery, and don't divorce for any reason. There is NO EXCUSE to comitt adultery. None. I don't care how much some woman makes your dick twitch or some man makes your pussy throb, if you're married, you're married and they're off limits. I think I will go with Rush. And I think I'll go with what Jesus said instead of lusting, cheating, divorcing pillhead Rush Limbaugh. Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 02:38 am by Merlin |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:Well, let me see. Rush up against Bill Clinton( I never inhaled), and couldn't keep his fly closed when a long-haired women was around. Remember the blue dress? Obama who says he did inhale, and snorted cocaine. Besides, I don't recall Rush being elected to represent the people's will. what Jesus said instead of lusting, cheating, divorcing pillhead Rush Limbaugh. What did Jesus say about homosexuality, and sex dungeons? |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote: Except Clinton isn't up on the airwaves every day condemning those who do exactly what he did. It's called "hypocrisy" And no, Rush wasn't elected. But you'll still "go with him"; that makes no sense at all. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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What did Jesus say about homosexuality, and sex dungeons? I don't think he said anything about them, actually. But he definitely had something to say on the topic of divorce. Funnily enough, it's the fundies who have the highest divorce rate in the US, in direct violation of what Jesus said. Yet they claim homosexuality is the "big threat" to the sanctity of marriage. But hey, pretend I asked the question that Merlin asked. Since I'm neither gay nor into sex dungeons, you might think about answering it, instead of your usual ducking and weaving... Jesus Tapdancing Christ you religious conservatives are the biggest pack of slimy hypocrites the world has seen... |
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manonfire Manofire
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Aldaron wrote:What did Jesus say about homosexuality, and sex dungeons? That's right! We don't tap dance to your marxist bullshit, Aldaron. You had better learn to deal with it. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote: Ah, another Hiram dodge. I'm not complaining about you not "tapdancing to my marxist bullshit", I'm pointing out that you are hypocrites because you don't follow the edicts of the founder of your religion. It's not my bullshit you're ignoring, it's Jesus Christ's...remember? The guy who banned divorce? Which you Christians engage in more than any other group? |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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The more you write, Hiram, the more you confirm that you're neither a Christian, nor a conservative. You realise that, don't you? You keep slipping up and revealing that you're playing the right's Combes to the left's Hannity. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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What did Jesus say about homosexuality, Nothing. He even healed the "servant boy" of a pederast Roman soldier without condemning either of them. and sex dungeons? Nothing. I was a virgin when I married idiot and never- not once-- cheated on him in the 22 years we were together, and omg did I have opportunities. I didn't even DATE, much less have sex, for 3 years after he was gone. After the 3rd time he filed for divorce, I finally figured out what "irretrievably broken" meant and did whatever I wanted. Rush was MARRIED and cheated on his wives. Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:19 am by Merlin |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:What did Jesus say about homosexuality, Nothing. He even healed the "servant boy" of a pederast Roman soldier without condemning either of them. b]Rush was MARRIED and cheated on his wives. You must know something the rest us don't. I've never heard that Rush cheated on his wives. Regardless, he is not a tax paid representative that Americans chose to represent their beliefs. However, Bill Clinton was, and Obama is. See the difference? |
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Evelyn Dialogue Facilitator
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We don't choose presidents to "represent our beliefs." We elect them to be commander in chief and chief executive. God. Hiram, just out of morbid curiosity, have you been married more than once? |
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AyHyperbole Dialogue Follower
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manonfire wrote: b] Rush was MARRIED and cheated on his wives. Yeah, I haven't heard that, either. David Limbaugh, Rush's brother, said that Rush's wives left him because "women don't want guys to be sedentary" - in other words, because he's a lazy, fat slob. Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:49 am by AyHyperbole |
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manonfire Manofire
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Evelyn wrote:We don't choose presidents to "represent our beliefs." We elect them to be commander in chief and chief executive. God. Yeah, you know I was married to your sister. You remember your sister don't you? Yep, the pretty one of the litter. |
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WingedBeast Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Merlin wrote: As already stated, we didn't elect him to represent our beliefs. We hired him for management position. And, even if, what it would mean is that Clinton and Obama are better representatives of our beliefs than is Rush. I doubt even thoughtful conservatives would disagree. |
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manonfire Manofire
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WingedBeast wrote:manonfire wrote:Merlin wrote: Like I said, you are as dumb as a stick. |
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WingedBeast Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: WingedBeast wrote: Then it shouldn't be difficult for you to demonstrait that by responding to the content of my post. Please... feel free. Such a smart man as yourself shouldn't have any trouble humiliating us with real logic and knowledge. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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You must know something the rest us don't Here you go, hiram: 3 marriages 3 divorces 1 confessed drug habit 1 Federal Investigation for drug shopping 1 anal cyst 1977 -- Rush married a radio station secretary named Roxy Maxine McNeely. The marriage lasted 3 years. In 1983 he married a Kansas City Royals Stadium usher named Michelle Sixta. The marriage lasted 5 years. Rush tells a radio audience, "if you want a succesful marriage, let your husband do what he wants to do." Shortly afterwards, a young college coed writes Rush for advice on how to handle a liberal professor. Rush begins a correspondence with the young woman, pursues and marries the coed, Marta Fitzgerald, in the home of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Also in attendance was pro-family man William Bennett, who later confessed to a multi-million dollar gambling habit. 2003 National Enquirer breaks story that Rush is addicted to opiate painkillers, doctor shops, and bought hundreds and hundreds of pain pills. October, 2003 Rush admits in court that he is indeed addicted to pain killers. Public wonders what should be done with Rush, perhaps forgetting Rush's own words about drug addicts: "Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up." But drug addicts who marry their third wife in the living room of Clarence Thomas don't get "sent up," they go back on the air a month later to talk about how same sex weddings are destroying the "sanctity of marriage." Accepted plea agreement to avoid being charged with prescription fraud and prison time. In June of 2004, Rush and Marta were divorced in Florida, a no-fault divorce state. The divorce records were sealed at the request of Rush Limbaugh. Claimed it was OK that John Edwards cheated on his wife because she was smarter than him and wouldn't give him a blow job. Said President Obama caused Gov. Sanford to cheat on his wife, even though the Governor had been cheating for years, with several different women. Two newspapers reported he cheated on 2 of his wives. Used his maid as a drug runner. Avoided Viet Nam war by claiming he had an anal cyst. Fired 7 times. Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 06:00 am by Merlin |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:You must know something the rest us don't Merlin, what private citizens do in their personal lives do not concern my liberty and rights as an American citizen. Elected representatives can and do. Besides, we American taxpayers are not paying Rush his wages; the free-market is. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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Merlin, what private citizens do in their personal lives do not concern my liberty and rights as an American citizen. Elected representatives can and do. Besides, we American taxpayers are not paying Rush his wages; the free-market is. So that makes it okay for him to be a lying hypocrite? Oh, wait. I forgot who I was talking to. Carry on... Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 04:31 pm by Aldaron |
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manonfire Manofire
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Aldaron wrote:Merlin, what private citizens do in their personal lives do not concern my liberty and rights as an American citizen. Elected representatives can and do. Besides, we American taxpayers are not paying Rush his wages; the free-market is. So that makes it okay for him to be a lying hypocrite? I have been listening to Rush off and on for years, and have never heard him tell a lie. For you to call him, or I a hypocrite, just validates your irrational secular progressive thought patterns. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Merlin, what private citizens do in their personal lives do not concern my liberty and rights as an American citizen. You THINK it doesn't, but it does. If a man will go behnd his wife and cheat, he will go behind his country and cheat. A man who cheats on his wife is a man who has no honor. Elected representatives can and do. Besides, we American taxpayers are not paying Rush his wages; the free-market is. Spare me, hiram, conservatives worship the ground Rush walks on and follow every one of his self-defeating and nation-defeating attitutdes so far as to consider him the leader of the Conservative party. You have gone from "he didn't do it" to "yeah he did it, BUT........." The man looks like a 70s mafioso chief, has horrible and destructive personal habits, and deliberately and outrageously distorts truth and plays on the fears and ignorance of conservatives to get ratings, and they believe every word of it is gospel truth. Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 07:05 pm by Merlin |
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Torquemada Yoda 
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How about Michael Savage? I've moved on from Rush; Savage is my new favorite radio commentator. I like the fact that he tells it like it is and isn't afraid to express his views in graphic terms. Never fails to entertain me. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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Never fails to entertain me. Yeah, that sums it up pretty well. |
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Torquemada Yoda
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But don't you admire the fact that he speaks his mind - often loudly? I do. I mean, in a way, he's kind of like the radio equivalent of Yoda  Obnoxious and often offensive. Why does he live in San Francisco, though? That's a little odd for someone who is always ranting against gays and who hates liberals... hrm.  |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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But don't you admire the fact that he speaks his mind - often loudly? I dunno why people admire people who speak their mind, just for the sake of speaking their mind. I would rather admire the person who speaks their mind and has something to say, rather than a moron like Limbaugh who just parrots the arch-conservative mantras over and over. I can see Hiram doing that...why would I want to listen to someone else do it? I admire good minds, not loud minds like Limbaugh's. |
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Torquemada wrote: But don't you admire the fact that he speaks his mind - often loudly? I do. I mean, in a way, he's kind of like the radio equivalent of Yoda Uhmmmmm, he couldn't possibly be gay,...ahhhh, right? |
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manonfire Manofire
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Aldaron wrote:But don't you admire the fact that he speaks his mind - often loudly? No, you admire evil minds. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote: Coming from the guy who was just trying to convince posters to commit suicide, that's a laugh... |
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manonfire Manofire
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Aldaron wrote:manonfire wrote:Aldaron wrote: What's evil about pointing out to miserable people who want to make others miserable that's there an alternative for them? Take a look at yourself, Aldaron, what do you have going for you? What do you have to offer your fellow man, atheism? You are a hater. You hate your country, you hate U.S., you hate God, and you hate people who have faith in Jesus Christ. You believe they are stupid, and/or intellectually inferior to you. Aldaron, what's your purpose in life, do you have one? |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator 
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote: You have a good purpose Hiram - turning people off of Christianity. Keep up the good work. You are a master. |
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manonfire Manofire
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yoki wrote:manonfire wrote:Aldaron wrote: Yoki, what's your purpose in life, do you have one? |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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What's evil about pointing out to miserable people who want to make others miserable that's there an alternative for them? Well, specifically aimed at me, it's not a problem. I'm not suicidal, so your suggestion is laughable. However, suggesting that any person should commit suicide says more about your character than you apparently realise. You place so little value on the lives of those you disagree with that you wish they would kill themselves. Then you call me a "hater". If you can't see the irony in that, there's precious little I can do about it. Take a look at yourself, Aldaron, what do you have going for you? A wonderful wife whom I adore and who adores me. A son around which revolves my world. Friends. Family. Learning. A good job, a good income. The respect of my peers and colleagues. That's off the top of my head... What do you have to offer your fellow man, atheism? Most of my "fellow men" wouldn't even know I'm an atheist, Hiram. It's not the sort of thing that comes up in conversation. I have to offer them everything you have - except I don't judge them by their income level or the work they do or the political party they follow. You are a hater. Of what? Intolerance and bigotry? Yeah, I hate them. Now find some other stuff... You hate your country No I don't. I just don't "love" it. I passed about a hundred people on the street today that I don't love, either. Does this mean I hate them? you hate U.S. What a load of shit. Find something, anything I've ever written that indicates I hate the USA. Again, I'm waiting. You have this simplistic, black-and-white view that leads to false dichotomies everywhere: if I don't fall over and swoon at the thought of America, then I must hate it. It's like your bizarre view of communism. You constantly refer to me as a communist. Time and time again I have pointed out to you that I have my own business and that I have no time whatsoever for communism. So you're either being intentionally dishonest, or you simply don't understand communism. I suspect the latter. From what you've written, I suspect you wouldn't know a communist if he fell in your teacup. And speaking of cups, my wife snorted coffee everywhere when I told her that someone had accused me of being a communist. You don't seem to realise that the principles of liberalism are the polar opposite of communism. And as far as how I feel about the USA, I'll quote something I wrote back in March when Carol essentially accused me of the same thing you are: I feel about America about the same as I feel about the UK, or Germany, or Japan, or New Zealand, or...whatever. It's a country. It has good people and bad people. It does good things and it does bad things. It is a liberal democracy, but it fucks things up as well. It has a legal system based on natural justice, and it's not perfect and occasionally screws up. It's a superpower that has awesome military might which is sometimes used for all the right reasons, and sometimes for all the wrong reasons. It has corruption and generosity, it occasionally seethes with hatred and often runs over with compassion. It sometimes makes me angry enough to spit, and sometimes moves me to tears. What the fuck else do you want?? you hate God, How can I hate something I don't believe exists? I don't hate God any more than I hate Osiris or Loki or The Rainbow Serpent. I hate a lot of what people claim about God, and a lot of what they do in his name...but that's a far cry from hating something that doesn't exist. and you hate people who have faith in Jesus Christ. Yeah, right. I hate my mother. I hated my father. I hate half my relatives and a sizeable chunk of my friends. *rolls eyes* You believe they are stupid, and/or intellectually inferior to you. I believe they're wrong. Just like I believe my closest friend is wrong because he's a political conservative. Unlike you, I don't think people who disagree with me are stupid or intellectually inferior. I think people who constantly make absurd claims and/or say stupid things, and then refuse to back them up with facts or resort to personal mudslinging when challenged are stupid and intellectually inferior, yes. There are very few people I know who do that. Aldaron, what's your purpose in life, do you have one? To be the best person I can be, to love my family and friends as best I can and teach my son to grow up to be the best man he can be. And I've got maybe another 30 or 40 years to do it (hopefully) - no afterlife, no second chances, no automatic success 'cos someone else has taken the fall for me. It's my responsibility. Unlike you, I can't be a prick to all and sundry and then use the excuse that "I'm a sinner, but Jesus has saved me." I'm responsible for my own actions...I don't hand it off to my imaginary friend. |
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AyHyperbole Dialogue Follower
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Aldaron wrote: A wonderful wife whom I adore and who adores me. A son around which revolves my world. Friends. Family. Learning. A good job, a good income. The respect of my peers and colleagues. That's off the top of my head... And I've got to wonder if the reason hiram finds it so necessary to be in love with some borders, of all things, is that he doesn't have anything like this in his life. |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: yoki wrote: I most certainly do Hiram. I am a de-evangelist.... been one for almost 20 years, and had some success. |
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Torquemada Yoda
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I must have missed the post where Hiram was encouraging posters to commit suicide. Don't worry, though, Hiram - liberals are naturally self-hating and suicidal. They don't need our encouragement to jump off an economic or political cliff. Last edited on Sat Jul 4th, 2009 05:23 pm by Torquemada |
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manonfire Manofire
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yoki wrote:manonfire wrote:yoki wrote: Well, you're pissing up the wrong tree as far as I'm concerned. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Torquemada wrote:I must have missed the post where Hiram was encouraging posters to commit suicide. Yoda, I was just trying to be helpful  and what do I get for my trouble? Aldaron and yoki's typical hateful rhetoric. Bless their hearts, I don't think they have a snowball chance in hell for salvation. All they have to look forward to is their miserable existence here on earth, like I said...just trying to help out. |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: yoki wrote: It better to do that than constantly piss in one's pants and the piss gives them that warm and fuzzy feeling. |
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manonfire Manofire
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yoki wrote:manonfire wrote:yoki wrote: I wouldn't know, but sounds like you speak from experience. |
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yoki Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: yoki wrote: Yes, I do, from when I was a fundie. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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I think hiram and yoda are the same person. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Torquemada wrote: *smacks self on head* Now why the fuck did I bother spending the time and effort giving you a serious answer. I should have known you'd completely ignore everything I wrote and continue to pretend you had the slightest clue of what you were talking about. I spent a fair amount of time putting together the post I made demonstrating that I am not, in fact, "miserable" or "unhappy" or in any way dissatisfied, and you have ignored it and simply restated your original position. That's your typical MO, Hiram. Why is that? Are you truly so hopeless at discussion that you can't answer when people contradict you? You did it with your claim that Australia was a Third World nation - and simply made a fool of yourself in doing so - and now you're doing it here. Oh, and regarding salvation? Eternity in heaven with you would be hell. So if you're 100% right about God , heaven and hell, I'm damned relieved I'll be going to the opposite place from you. Because if you are right (which you're not), and if your God sent the likes of Ghandi to hell and yourself to heaven, then your God would be worthy of disdain. But of course, since your God doesn't exist, you're just pissing in the wind. |
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Merlin Dialogue Facilitator
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That's your typical MO, Hiram. Why is that? Because he's a troll. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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Merlin wrote: That's your typical MO, Hiram. Why is that? Yeah, I think you're probably right. *sigh* His current spamming of the boards would seem to confirm it...I'm just cranky with myself for wasting time on a well-thought-out reply, only to have it tossed aside. I think he's been hanging out with Stiggy too often, as well... |
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manonfire Manofire
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Aldaron wrote:Merlin wrote:That's your typical MO, Hiram. Why is that? wasting time on a well-thought-out reply, Hiram: well thought out reply? Who in hell told you could think? If you could think, you wouldn't be socialist atheist. |
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Merlin wrote:That's your typical MO, Hiram. Why is that? That's right, Merlin. When you're getting your asses kicked, you try to marginalize the opposition. That old dog won't hunt any more. |
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Merlin wrote: I think hiram and yoda are the same person. i've thought that for a long time |
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manonfire Manofire
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met wrote:Merlin wrote:I think hiram and yoda are the same person. Really? That's interesting because I think Yoda and yoki are the same person. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote: And he still continues to duck, dodge and weave. What's wrong, Hiram? Worried about getting your arse kicked again? Perhaps you don't like being made a fool of like you did to yourself when you claimed Australia was a Third World country, only to be shown how Australia out-does the US in three key criteria: life-expectancy, GDP per capita and the HDI. Keep 'em coming - your sound-bytes, that is. Because every time you avoid the arguments and make your quaint little ad hom attacks, it tells everyone that you can't even convince yourself that you're right, let alone anyone else. Although I do notice I'm now a socialist atheist, rather than a communist atheist. Maybe something's sinking in...finally... |
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Aldaron wrote: manonfire wrote:Aldaron wrote: Don't worry, he will revert to "godless atheist" in due time, not even knowing the concept of a redundancy. |
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manonfire Manofire
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yoki wrote:Aldaron wrote:manonfire wrote:Aldaron wrote: Redundancy? lol,Count the times Aldaron has said that if Hiram goes to heaven he doesn't want to go, that's redundancy. |
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The fact is that Limbaugh and his peers in talk radio say the most bizarre crap they can think of to draw listeners. They know it's over-the-top distortions and lies and sensationalism and deliberate controvery, but the conservatives who listen to them are so dumb that they believe every word of it. Can you imagine anybody being so stupid that they believe Howard Sterns? Hell no, because his listeners are savvy enough to know it's all put-on junk to get ratings. Conservatives live in fear, and they gravitate to somebody who will feed those fears. Never mind that their "leaders" are making up shit to get ratings. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:The fact is that Limbaugh and his peers in talk radio say the most bizarre crap they can think of to draw listeners. They know it's over-the-top distortions and lies and sensationalism and deliberate controvery, but the conservatives who listen to them are so dumb that they believe every word of it. I would be interested in hearing some of the lies Rush has been putting over the air waves, as you claim. I'll be waiting. |
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Hmmmm.... how about the latest major absurdity and outright lie--- that Mark Sanford cheated on his wife because Obama made him do it? Keep in mind that Sanford confessed he was sticking his dick in other women for years .... did Obama make him do that too? |
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Merlin wrote:Hmmmm.... how about the latest major absurdity and outright lie--- that Mark Sanford cheated on his wife because Obama made him do it? You have made a wild-ass claim, now back it up with facts, and not the ones you usually pull out of that fat ass of your's. |
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Aldaron Dialogue Facilitator
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Redundancy? lol,Count the times Aldaron has said that if Hiram goes to heaven he doesn't want to go, that's redundancy. Oh, lots. So many I've lost count. Tell you what - when you realise the "redundancy" of threatening me with hell, I'll stop pointing out how little your threats mean, 'kay? |
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First, my ass isn't fat.... you must be looking in the mirror too much. Sanford admits to cheating on his wife numerous times in his 20 year marriage. Associated Press July 1, 2009 Columbia, S.C. -- Gov. Mark Sanford declared his Argentine mistress his soul mate Tuesday but said he was committed to reconciling with his wife in hopes of saving his family and what was left of his political career. Sanford, who also admitted meeting his lover more times than he had previously claimed, said in emotional interviews that he had "crossed lines" with other women during 20 years of marriage. Limbaugh blames Obama for Sanford's adultery: LIMBAUGH: This Sanford business! I'll tell you, one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind, with Mark Sanford ... this is the first thought: What he did defies logic. This is ... more than being 180 degrees out of phase because of lust, or love. To split the scene for five days, and we know he's been separated, and he knows, by the way, that the newspaper in his state has the emails between him and his concubine down there in Argentina, he knows this. He knows that somebody knows what's going on. He knows his wife knows. So he ups and leaves for five days, doesn't leave anybody in charge of the state, in case there's an emergency. LIMBAUGH: This is almost like: I don't give a damn! Country's going to hell in a handbasket. I just want out of here! LIMBAUGH: He had just tried to fight the stimulus money coming to South Carolina. He didn't want any part of it. He lost the battle and said "What the hell? The Federal government is taking over! I want to enjoy life!"And it goes on from there. Apparently, it's all President Barack Obama's fault, for killing people's "spirit," and making them so "fed up" with the SADNESS that they've got no other choice but to abdicate their grown-up responsibilities and start philandering "before Obama takes away their money" and "their house." So everyone is going to Buenos Aires, for succor. It will be a marvel and a wonder if any 2012 contender hasn't logged some serious time with Latin American mistresses. Anyway, I think we can all agree that this is a very cunning plan by President Obama, who somehow managed to depress Sanford's spirits so much that he started having an affair months before Obama even became President and started enacting policies. There you go. Have fun trying to twist the facts presented to you. |
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Merlin wrote:First, my ass isn't fat.... you must be looking in the mirror too much. You got to be kidding me! You can't understand parody and humor? |
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Merlin wrote: First, my ass isn't fat.... you must be looking in the mirror too much. LIMBAUGH: This Sanford business! I'll tell you, one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind, with Mark Sanford ... this is the first thought: What he did defies logic. This is ... more than being 180 degrees out of phase because of lust, or love. To split the scene for five days, and we know he's been separated, and he knows, by the way, that the newspaper in his state has the emails between him and his concubine down there in Argentina, he knows this. He knows that somebody knows what's going on. He knows his wife knows. So he ups and leaves for five days, doesn't leave anybody in charge of the state, in case there's an emergency. LIMBAUGH: This is almost like: I don't give a damn! Country's going to hell in a handbasket. I just want out of here! LIMBAUGH: He had just tried to fight the stimulus money coming to South Carolina. He didn't want any part of it. He lost the battle and said "What the hell? The Federal government is taking over! I want to enjoy life!" And it goes on from there. Apparently, it's all President Barack Obama's fault, for killing people's "spirit," and making them so "fed up" with the SADNESS that they've got no other choice but to abdicate their grown-up responsibilities and start philandering "before Obama takes away their money" and "their house." So everyone is going to Buenos Aires, for succor. It will be a marvel and a wonder if any 2012 contender hasn't logged some serious time with Latin American mistresses. Now he'll tell you you're insane, shriek about you being a godless communist, and run off to create another thread pointing to some boring, brain-dead schmuck ranting about how the poor should just fucking deal with being poor (just like Jesus said...oh, wait...). Because Christ only knows how he would argue against simple facts presented to him. I've never met anyone as afraid of reality... |
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Yeah, isn't he predictable? I make a statement-- he demands proof-- I quote the Assosiated Press and Rush Limbaugh himself -- and now he's trying to play Limbaugh's lying bullshit off as "humor." The "humor" is how conservatives lick the shit out of Limbaugh's ass and swear it's the best ice cream they ever had. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Aldaron wrote:Merlin wrote:First, my ass isn't fat.... you must be looking in the mirror too much. Reality? Let me tell you what John Locke said about your "reality." In fact he pointed out in his Famous "Essay Concerning Human Understanding" that it defies elementary aspects of reason and experience to presuppose that everything in existence developed as a result of fortuitious circumstance. Locke felt that a person who calls himself an "atheist" would be merely confessing that he has never delt with the issue of the creator's existence. Therefore, to Locke an atheist would be to that extent irrational, and out of touch with reality; in fact, out of touch with the most important and fundamental reality. |
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Reality? Let me tell you what John Locke said about your "reality." In fact he pointed out in his Famous "Essay Concerning Human Understanding" that it defies elementary aspects of reason and experience to presuppose that everything in existence developed as a result of fortuitious circumstance. Locke felt that a person who calls himself an "atheist" would be merely confessing that he has never delt with the issue of the creator's existence. Therefore, to Locke an atheist would be to that extent irrational, and out of touch with reality; in fact, out of touch with the most important and fundamental reality. Ah, yes. And I'm supposed to accept the view of a 16th century philosopher on the development of existence why? Can you guys possibly get some more recent material? Like, one who makes his arguments taking into account M-theory, quantum physics, evolutionary theory and...oh, hell...even relativity would be nice. ETA: Just to clarify, I'm pointing out that demanding that I accept a 16th century philosopher's view on the creation of existence is kind of like demanding I accept a 16th century biologist's view on how speciation occurred. In other words, C16 Biologist has never heard of evolutionary theory, genes, mutation or natural selection, so he emphatically tells us that God created all the animals. Locke tells us that it is irrational to be an atheist because "it defies elementary aspects of reason and experience to presuppose that everything in existence developed as a result of fortuitious circumstance". Yeah, but in the last three or four centuries we've come up with quite a few ideas - none of them requiring "fortuitous circumstances". Locke could never, for example hypothesise zero-point energy, or branes, or an expanding universe, or a singularity. So his claim is roughly the equivelant of a 13th century philosopher telling us that lightning is the might of God, and therefore a good man has nothing to fear from it... (End Edit) But that aside, don't think we haven't noticed how you have - yet again - ducked the issue and run off on a tangent. Last edited on Mon Jul 6th, 2009 03:16 am by Aldaron |
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Aldaron wrote:Reality? Let me tell you what John Locke said about your "reality." In fact he pointed out in his Famous "Essay Concerning Human Understanding" that it defies elementary aspects of reason and experience to presuppose that everything in existence developed as a result of fortuitious circumstance. Locke felt that a person who calls himself an "atheist" would be merely confessing that he has never delt with the issue of the creator's existence. Therefore, to Locke an atheist would be to that extent irrational, and out of touch with reality; in fact, out of touch with the most important and fundamental reality. I will do that. But first please explain to me using quaantum physics, evolutionary theory, and how relativity made a wrist watch. Explain how the proposition that the forces of nature, churning about among themselves, would ever produce even a lead pencil. |
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don't think we haven't noticed how you have - yet again - ducked the issue and run off on a tangent. As predictable as sunrise. |
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Aldaron wrote: Merlin wrote:That's your typical MO, Hiram. Why is that? Yep, that's exactly the problem with hiram's spamming. If he wanted to try to defend the crap he's posting, that would be one thing. But he has no interest in that. Lately, his style is just "Find some copypasta, control-C, control-V, and then check back every couple hours to say 'FUCK YOU ASSHOLE' to anyone who responded." It's an utter waste of time to comment on those threads. Hiram has apparently decided that it's much easier to deal with the fact that other people have opposing views if he doesn't even bother to read what they say. |
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manonfire wrote: I will do that. But first please explain to me using quaantum physics, evolutionary theory, and how relativity made a wrist watch. Explain how the proposition that the forces of nature, churning about among themselves, would ever produce even a lead pencil. Yeah, that doesn't make sense, does it, hiram? So obviously, the real answer must be that an immortal wizard did it. |
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But first please explain to me using quaantum physics, evolutionary theory, and how relativity made a wrist watch. Explain how the proposition that the forces of nature, churning about among themselves, would ever produce even a lead pencil. Tell you what. When you find a scientific publication, anywhere in the world, that claims that relativity has made a wrist watch, or that the forces of nature produce a lead pencil, I'll tell you how they did it, eh? When you bother to learn something about the scientific theories you disparage, rather than regurgitating the bizarre interpretations of it to which you guys seem to cleave, you might have some semblance of a point. Until then, however, you show about as much understanding of science as an understanding of Christianity would be displayed by someone arguing that Christ died on the cross to prove the Earth is flat. |
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Aldaron wrote:But first please explain to me using quaantum physics, evolutionary theory, and how relativity made a wrist watch. Explain how the proposition that the forces of nature, churning about among themselves, would ever produce even a lead pencil. Did aldaron just punt the football? By golly he did. |
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote: Well, you asked Aldaron to argue a point he doesn't believe. What do you expect? Are you familiar with the phrase "god of the gaps," hiram? It's the phenomenon where, when human beings can't explain something, they just say "a god did it." Twenty-five hundred years ago, humans had no idea what lightning was, or what could possibly be causing it, so they said "a god did it." Because, what was the alternative? That a hugely destructive bolt of energy just sprang out of nothing? That's ridiculous. Basically, the argument was: Can you explain where it comes from? No? Well, then, a god must have done it. That's the god of the gaps. Today, humans have no idea about the origin of the universe and reality, so many of us just say "a god did it." Same exact thing. |
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AyHyperbole wrote:manonfire wrote:Aldaron wrote: Today, humans have no idea about the origin of the universe and reality, so many of us just say "a god did it." Yes, this true with atheists, not Christians. |
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manonfire wrote: AyHyperbole wrote: Are you telling me that atheists say "a god did it"? |
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manonfire Manofire
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AyHyperbole wrote:manonfire wrote:AyHyperbole wrote: No, I'm telling you that atheists don't have a clue about the origin of the universe and reality. |
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manonfire wrote: Are you telling me that atheists say "a god did it"? You don't need to tell me that. Atheists have been telling me that for decades. Thing is, just because you came up with an answer - "a god did it" - doesn't mean your answer is better than "I don't know." People have been saying "a god did it" instead of "I don't know" for all of human history - and slowly but surely, we keep replacing all those "a god did its" with "oh, we figured this out." |
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And hiram keeps on evading dealing with the questions asked, having suckered posters into rabbit trails of atheism and now evolution. |
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Merlin wrote: And hiram keeps on evading dealing with the questions asked, having suckered posters into rabbit trails of atheism and now evolution. The word "suckered" would suggest he has a strategy. He doesn't. He just posts whatever random slogan pops into his head and ignores responses to him. We could dwell on the fact that he accused Sotomayor of being a racist on ridiculously stupid grounds, but what would be the point? He wouldn't read what we wrote. Rush Limbaugh says that Sotomayor is a racist, and Rush Limbaugh is one of hiram's gods. No actual facts are going to change his mind. |
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The word "suckered" would suggest he has a strategy. He does have a strategy. His strategy is to post crap and flame people. He doesn't. He just posts whatever random slogan pops into his head and ignores responses to him. So force him to deal with responses without allowing him to switch to a new topic. He'll either have to answer the questions put to him, storm off in a huff, or sit down and throw a temper tantrum and cry. We could dwell on the fact that he accused Sotomayor of being a racist on ridiculously stupid grounds, but what would be the point? He wouldn't read what we wrote. Rush Limbaugh says that Sotomayor is a racist, and Rush Limbaugh is one of hiram's gods. No actual facts are going to change his mind. hiram isn't even interested in what Limbaugh says.... he uses him as a stick to poke people with here. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:The word "suckered" would suggest he has a strategy. He does have a strategy. His strategy is to post crap and flame people. Hey Merlin. Would you change your avatar? I'm getting this obsession to get my hammer and start nailing. |
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Last I heard, Rush was actually offering reluctant support to Sotomayor on the grounds that - while a terrible candidate - she is less terrible than many of the more radical judges Obama could have picked, and she may be borderline pro-life. I agree with Rush's assessment. BTW, modern man has better explanations for natural phenomena than "a god did it": http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/A_wizard_did_it |
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Hey Merlin. Would you change your avatar? I'm getting this obsession to get my hammer and start nailing. You can try any time you're ready, grandpa. |
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manonfire Manofire
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Merlin wrote:Hey Merlin. Would you change your avatar? I'm getting this obsession to get my hammer and start nailing. Btw, Rush on drugs, is still right. |
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manonfire wrote: Merlin wrote: "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting." - Rush Limbaugh on Michael J. Fox "There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease." - Rush Limbaugh on tobacco smoking "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation...I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of the need to blow some steam off?" - Rush Limbaugh on Abu Ghraib "Here is a Morning Update that we did recently, talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth. Now, he was a "corporal." I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn't his Purple Heart; it wasn't his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse MacBeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children." - Rush Limbaugh on how some American soldiers are "fake." "Columbus saved the Indians from themselves." - Rush Limbaugh on genocide "You know the difference between Obama and God? God only asks that you worship him one day a week." - Rush Limbaugh on the piety required of Christians "Too many whites are getting away with drug use...Too many whites are getting away with drug sales...The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river, too." - Rush Limbaugh on white people taking drugs, 1995 "I am addicted to prescription pain medication." - Rush Limbaugh on white people taking drugs, 2003 |
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AyHyperbole wrote:manonfire wrote:Merlin wrote: "You know the difference between Obama and God? God only asks that you worship him one day a week." - Rush Limbaugh on the piety required of Christians - one of my favorites "There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease." - Rush Limbaugh on tobacco smoking - is this not true? |
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manonfire wrote: "There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease." - Rush Limbaugh on tobacco smoking - is this not true? It is ridiculously untrue. There have been thousands of peer-reviewed scientific publications on nicotine. Every single one concludes that the drug is highly addictive. Not only that, but we know the mechanism; we know where nicotine binding sites are in the brain. In fact, based on that knowledge, we've developed drugs like Chantix, which binds to those sites and thus eliminate the psychoactive effects of nicotine, making it easy to quit. Only trouble is, Chantix has a tendency to make people bat fuck insane and blow their brains out for little to no reason. But you don't need a scientist to tell you nicotine's addictive any more than you need a weatherman to tell you it's raining. Just ask a smoker. Ask one of the hundreds of thousands of people who have tried repeatedly to quit but just can't handle the intense cravings and general anhedonia that accompany withdrawal. Rush is being absolutely, unbelievably ignorant when he makes these claims. |
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AyHyperbole wrote:manonfire wrote:"There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease." - Rush Limbaugh on tobacco smoking - is this not true? But you don't need a scientist to tell you nicotine's addictive any more than you need a weatherman to tell you it's raining. Just ask a smoker. Ask one of the hundreds of thousands of people who have tried repeatedly to quit but just can't handle the intense cravings and general anhedonia that accompany withdrawal. I agree with you 100%. However, if you listened to Rush, you would realize he sometimes says absurd things to illustrate absurdity. He also likes to tweak the liberals. |
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manonfire wrote: "You know the difference between Obama and God? God only asks that you worship him one day a week." - Rush Limbaugh on the piety required of Christians - one of my favorites YO: LOL, I heard that one. I'm still trying to figure out whether it's a sadder comment on "the piety required of Christians" or on Obama. I mean... once a week? I talk to my girlfriend more than that. Is God really that boring to be around? "There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease." - Rush Limbaugh on tobacco smoking - is this not true? YO: I haven't researched the issue (don't smoke and never will, so I couldn't care less), but it sounds a little fishy to me. |
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He also likes to tweak the liberals. Liberals don't listen to him. You conservatives are the ones whose brains he's "tweaking." |
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Merlin wrote:He also likes to tweak the liberals. Damn, you got me. |
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