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Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 07:42 pm |
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Rush: Supreme Court Rules Sotomayor a Racist
Monday, June 29, 2009 10:14 PM
Conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh lashed out at high court nominee Judge Sonia Sotomayor Monday, describing her as a "racist at heart" after the Supreme Court reversed a decision she endorsed involving white firefighters who were denied promotions because of their race.
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Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 08:21 pm |
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manonfire wrote: Rush: Supreme Court Rules Sotomayor a Racist
Monday, June 29, 2009 10:14 PM
Conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh lashed out at high court nominee Judge Sonia Sotomayor Monday, describing her as a "racist at heart" after the Supreme Court reversed a decision she endorsed involving white firefighters who were denied promotions because of their race.
Have you even read the facts of this case??
They look like this:
The fire department New Haven, Connecticut decided they were going to base future promotions on a written test.
Of the firefighters who took the written test, all of the African-Americans failed.
Those firefighters complained, but did not sue.
Based on the complaints, the fire department decided to withdraw the test and find a different way of assigning promotions.
At that point, 20 white firefighters who had passed the test sued and said the courts should force the fire department to re-instate it.
The District Court ruled that the fire department should not be forced to re-instate the test against their will. At that point, the white firefighters appealed to Sotomayor's court.
What did Sotomayor have to say about that? Absolutely nothing. She just said "The District Court did not make a legal error" and affirmed its ruling.
How anyone could get "THE WOMAN IS A RACIST" out of that is beyond me.
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Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 01:14 pm |
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A person who (knowing all the facts) would call Sotomayor a racist is a person who would lie to keep her off the court, and whose opinions should therefore be ignored, at least with regard to this appointment.
Of course, regarding Rush's opinions in general, a lot more could be said. Let's just let it suffice that "he speaks truth" is not high on the list of reasons that he is disliked by liberals.
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Tyrrho wrote:
A person who (knowing all the facts) would call Sotomayor a racist is a person who would lie to keep her off the court, and whose opinions should therefore be ignored, at least with regard to this appointment.
Of course, regarding Rush's opinions in general, a lot more could be said. Let's just let it suffice that "he speaks truth" is not high on the list of reasons that he is disliked by liberals.
Well, the woman did say that a hispanic female would make a better judge than a white man. Sounds pretty damn racist to me.
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manonfire wrote: Tyrrho wrote:
A person who (knowing all the facts) would call Sotomayor a racist is a person who would lie to keep her off the court, and whose opinions should therefore be ignored, at least with regard to this appointment.
Of course, regarding Rush's opinions in general, a lot more could be said. Let's just let it suffice that "he speaks truth" is not high on the list of reasons that he is disliked by liberals.
Well, the woman did say that a hispanic female would make a better judge than a white man. Sounds pretty damn racist to me.
Actually, that was a quote taken out of context. The context that changed the nature of that quote moved on to say that such personal bias is actually something she has to work hard to remove from her rulings.
Rush found a reality he likes and repeats it often and at volume. That's what he does. That, by the way, is also why there are a lot of thoughtful Republicans and conservatives who don't like him. He turns off discussions that could be fruitful, in either a learning experience or in terms of convincing independants, and does nothing but damage to the Republican Party.
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WingedBeast wrote:
manonfire wrote: Tyrrho wrote:
A person who (knowing all the facts) would call Sotomayor a racist is a person who would lie to keep her off the court, and whose opinions should therefore be ignored, at least with regard to this appointment.
Of course, regarding Rush's opinions in general, a lot more could be said. Let's just let it suffice that "he speaks truth" is not high on the list of reasons that he is disliked by liberals.
Well, the woman did say that a hispanic female would make a better judge than a white man. Sounds pretty damn racist to me.
Actually, that was a quote taken out of context. The context that changed the nature of that quote moved on to say that such personal bias is actually something she has to work hard to remove from her rulings.
Rush found a reality he likes and repeats it often and at volume. That's what he does. That, by the way, is also why there are a lot of thoughtful Republicans and conservatives who don't like him. He turns off discussions that could be fruitful, in either a learning experience or in terms of convincing independants, and does nothing but damage to the Republican Party.
"This case will only raise more questions in the minds of the American people concerning Judge Sotomayor's commitment to treat each individual fairly and not as a member of a group," said Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
"It's just one more data point that she thinks it's OK to make decisions as a judge based on your own personal preferences, gender, race, background, political agenda -- instead of being a servant of the law," said Wendy Long of the Judicial Confirmation Network.
Tom Fitton of the conservative group Judicial Watch said the case "puts senators in a corner, where they're going to have to say whether they will vote for someone who thought it was appropriate to discriminate based on race simply to avoid a lawsuit."
Btw, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Sotomayor is a racist.Last edited on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:15 pm by manonfire
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Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:51 pm |
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Equality On Trial
By Thomas Sowell
July 1, 2009
For the fourth time in six cases, the Supreme Court of the United States has reversed a decision for which Judge Sonia Sotomayor voted on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals. If this nominee were a white male, would this not raise questions about whether he should be elevated to a court that has found his previous decisions wrong two-thirds of the times when those decisions have been reviewed?
Is no one supposed to ask questions about qualifications, simply because this nominee is Hispanic and a woman? Have we become that mindless?
Qualifications are not simply a question of how long you have been doing something, but how well you have done it. Judge Sotomayor has certainly been on the federal bench long enough, but is being reversed four out of six times a sign of a job well done?
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/tsowell/2009/ts_07011.shtml
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Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:52 pm |
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manonfire wrote: "This case will only raise more questions in the minds of the American people concerning Judge Sotomayor's commitment to treat each individual fairly and not as a member of a group," said Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
"It's just one more data point that she thinks it's OK to make decisions as a judge based on your own personal preferences, gender, race, background, political agenda -- instead of being a servant of the law," said Wendy Long of the Judicial Confirmation Network.
Tom Fitton of the conservative group Judicial Watch said the case "puts senators in a corner, where they're going to have to say whether they will vote for someone who thought it was appropriate to discriminate based on race simply to avoid a lawsuit."
Yes, we already know that right-wingers will say just about anything to try to keep her off the court.
"Btw, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Sotomayor is a racist.
lol If you could back that up, I'd have a much higher opinion of you. 
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Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 07:27 pm |
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I like how hiram has completely, 100% abandoned all discussion of Ricci v. DeStefano, the subject of this post, now that the facts have been presented to him.
It's a shame that he now finds it necessary to continue to insist "Sotomayor is a racist," despite the fact that the one shred of evidence he's given has been completely refuted. Instead, he's invented some fantastically ridiculous story that the SCOTUS published an opinion calling her a racist. Hey, hiram, want to show us that opinion?
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 12:39 am |
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AyHyperbole wrote: I like how hiram has completely, 100% abandoned all discussion of Ricci v. DeStefano, the subject of this post, now that the facts have been presented to him.
It's a shame that he now finds it necessary to continue to insist "Sotomayor is a racist," despite the fact that the one shred of evidence he's given has been completely refuted. Instead, he's invented some fantastically ridiculous story that the SCOTUS published an opinion calling her a racist. Hey, hiram, want to show us that opinion?
I'm thinking that his opinion that Sotomayor is a racist has about as much traction as his contention that Australia is a Third World nation. 
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 01:10 am |
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manonfire wrote: WingedBeast wrote:
manonfire wrote: Tyrrho wrote:
A person who (knowing all the facts) would call Sotomayor a racist is a person who would lie to keep her off the court, and whose opinions should therefore be ignored, at least with regard to this appointment.
Of course, regarding Rush's opinions in general, a lot more could be said. Let's just let it suffice that "he speaks truth" is not high on the list of reasons that he is disliked by liberals.
Well, the woman did say that a hispanic female would make a better judge than a white man. Sounds pretty damn racist to me.
Actually, that was a quote taken out of context. The context that changed the nature of that quote moved on to say that such personal bias is actually something she has to work hard to remove from her rulings.
Rush found a reality he likes and repeats it often and at volume. That's what he does. That, by the way, is also why there are a lot of thoughtful Republicans and conservatives who don't like him. He turns off discussions that could be fruitful, in either a learning experience or in terms of convincing independants, and does nothing but damage to the Republican Party.
"This case will only raise more questions in the minds of the American people concerning Judge Sotomayor's commitment to treat each individual fairly and not as a member of a group," said Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
"It's just one more data point that she thinks it's OK to make decisions as a judge based on your own personal preferences, gender, race, background, political agenda -- instead of being a servant of the law," said Wendy Long of the Judicial Confirmation Network.
Tom Fitton of the conservative group Judicial Watch said the case "puts senators in a corner, where they're going to have to say whether they will vote for someone who thought it was appropriate to discriminate based on race simply to avoid a lawsuit."
Btw, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Sotomayor is a racist.
I'm sorry, I didn't see the "Is Sotomayor a Racist" hearing come before the Supreme Court. I certainly didn't see any Supreme Court opinions that even came close to saying so.
No, what I saw was a Supreme Court ruling that the FD in this case would have had to prove that following the results fo this test would have left them vulnerable to litigation before they could follow through on what was actually already the law.
By the way, I notice that your response doesn't actually respond, in any way, to what I said... at all. Don't tell me that such a strong conservative as yourself is too much a coward to actually respond to what I said.
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 11:51 pm |
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Personally, I find the idea that alleged Christians like Hiram would touch Limbaugh with a 10-foot barge pole to be mind-boggling. How many times has he been divorced? Three or four? What did Jesus say about divorce?
What did Rush say about drug addicts? What was his position on the proper punishment for addicts, hmm?
Oh! But wait...I'm sure all that changed when it came out that good ol' boy Rush is himself a drug addict.
Yep, the thrice-divorced, drug-addicted Rush is a definitely the poster boy for conservatives...
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 02:31 am |
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Aldaron wrote:
Personally, I find the idea that alleged Christians like Hiram would touch Limbaugh with a 10-foot barge pole to be mind-boggling. How many times has he been divorced? Three or four? What did Jesus say about divorce?
What did Rush say about drug addicts? What was his position on the proper punishment for addicts, hmm?
Oh! But wait...I'm sure all that changed when it came out that good ol' boy Rush is himself a drug addict.
Yep, the thrice-divorced, drug-addicted Rush is a definitely the poster boy for conservatives...
Well, let me see. Rush up against Bill Clinton( I never inhaled), and couldn't keep his fly closed when a long-haired women was around. Remember the blue dress? Obama who says he did inhale, and snorted cocaine. Besides, I don't recall Rush being elected to represent the people's will.
I think I will go with Rush.
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Well, let me see. Rush up against Bill Clinton( I never inhaled), and couldn't keep his fly closed when a long-haired women was around. Remember the blue dress? Obama who says he did inhale, and snorted cocaine. Besides, I don't recall Rush being elected to represent the people's will.
How about Rush and Clinton both up against what Jesus said about adultery and divorce? He said don't lust after anyone but your spouse, don't commit adultery, and don't divorce for any reason. There is NO EXCUSE to comitt adultery. None. I don't care how much some woman makes your dick twitch or some man makes your pussy throb, if you're married, you're married and they're off limits.
I think I will go with Rush. And I think I'll go with what Jesus said instead of lusting, cheating, divorcing pillhead Rush Limbaugh.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 02:44 am |
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Merlin wrote:
Well, let me see. Rush up against Bill Clinton( I never inhaled), and couldn't keep his fly closed when a long-haired women was around. Remember the blue dress? Obama who says he did inhale, and snorted cocaine. Besides, I don't recall Rush being elected to represent the people's will.
How about Rush and Clinton both up against what Jesus said about adultery and divorce? He said don't lust after anyone but your spouse, don't commit adultery, and don't divorce for any reason. There is NO EXCUSE to comitt adultery. None. I don't care how much some woman makes your dick twitch or some man makes your pussy throb, if you're married, you're married and they're off limits.
I think I will go with Rush. And I think I'll go with what Jesus said instead of lusting, cheating, divorcing pillhead Rush Limbaugh.
what Jesus said instead of lusting, cheating, divorcing pillhead Rush Limbaugh.
What did Jesus say about homosexuality, and sex dungeons?
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 02:57 am |
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote:
Personally, I find the idea that alleged Christians like Hiram would touch Limbaugh with a 10-foot barge pole to be mind-boggling. How many times has he been divorced? Three or four? What did Jesus say about divorce?
What did Rush say about drug addicts? What was his position on the proper punishment for addicts, hmm?
Oh! But wait...I'm sure all that changed when it came out that good ol' boy Rush is himself a drug addict.
Yep, the thrice-divorced, drug-addicted Rush is a definitely the poster boy for conservatives...
Well, let me see. Rush up against Bill Clinton( I never inhaled), and couldn't keep his fly closed when a long-haired women was around. Remember the blue dress? Obama who says he did inhale, and snorted cocaine. Besides, I don't recall Rush being elected to represent the people's will.
I think I will go with Rush.
Except Clinton isn't up on the airwaves every day condemning those who do exactly what he did.
It's called "hypocrisy"
And no, Rush wasn't elected. But you'll still "go with him"; that makes no sense at all.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:02 am |
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What did Jesus say about homosexuality, and sex dungeons?
I don't think he said anything about them, actually.
But he definitely had something to say on the topic of divorce. Funnily enough, it's the fundies who have the highest divorce rate in the US, in direct violation of what Jesus said. Yet they claim homosexuality is the "big threat" to the sanctity of marriage.
But hey, pretend I asked the question that Merlin asked.
Since I'm neither gay nor into sex dungeons, you might think about answering it, instead of your usual ducking and weaving...
Jesus Tapdancing Christ you religious conservatives are the biggest pack of slimy hypocrites the world has seen...
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Aldaron wrote:
What did Jesus say about homosexuality, and sex dungeons?
I don't think he said anything about them, actually.
But he definitely had something to say on the topic of divorce. Funnily enough, it's the fundies who have the highest divorce rate in the US, in direct violation of what Jesus said. Yet they claim homosexuality is the "big threat" to the sanctity of marriage.
But hey, pretend I asked the question that Merlin asked.
Since I'm neither gay nor into sex dungeons, you might think about answering it, instead of your usual ducking and weaving...
Jesus Tapdancing Christ you religious conservatives are the biggest pack of slimy hypocrites the world has seen...
That's right! We don't tap dance to your marxist bullshit, Aldaron. You had better learn to deal with it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:12 am |
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manonfire wrote: Aldaron wrote:
What did Jesus say about homosexuality, and sex dungeons?
I don't think he said anything about them, actually.
But he definitely had something to say on the topic of divorce. Funnily enough, it's the fundies who have the highest divorce rate in the US, in direct violation of what Jesus said. Yet they claim homosexuality is the "big threat" to the sanctity of marriage.
But hey, pretend I asked the question that Merlin asked.
Since I'm neither gay nor into sex dungeons, you might think about answering it, instead of your usual ducking and weaving...
Jesus Tapdancing Christ you religious conservatives are the biggest pack of slimy hypocrites the world has seen...
That's right! We don't tap dance to your marxist bullshit, Aldaron. You had better learn to deal with it.
Ah, another Hiram dodge. I'm not complaining about you not "tapdancing to my marxist bullshit", I'm pointing out that you are hypocrites because you don't follow the edicts of the founder of your religion.
It's not my bullshit you're ignoring, it's Jesus Christ's...remember? The guy who banned divorce? Which you Christians engage in more than any other group?
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The more you write, Hiram, the more you confirm that you're neither a Christian, nor a conservative. You realise that, don't you?
You keep slipping up and revealing that you're playing the right's Combes to the left's Hannity.
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