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I'm hearing some, from conservatives.  It'd be nice to hear some liberals, specifically women complaining about the degredation of women in sports.



US men's beach volleyball team.  Full torso shirt and baggy shorts.



US women's beach volleyball uniform.

Hmmmm.

And Phelps... pull up the pants dude.



I have about as much desire to see that as I do Ty Pennington's blurred butt crack as his pants continue to fall while taping ABC's Extreme Makeover: Home Edition.

 



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I love Ty Pennington!

He's running around with his butt crack showing? How did I miss that!!


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It may have occured before, but on one of the more recent episodes my wife and I watched, they had to blur his crack as he was running idiotically and his pants fell enough to show his butt.  My wife was not amused.  She finds Ty generally annoying.  She dislikes his "soul patch", his continuous, hoarse and inane yelling, and plugs her ears when he says "Welcome home 'whoever' family, welcome home."  But she likes the show in general since it's a "good" show.

We really don't watch much tv, and when we do, we try to find "wholesome" entertainment.  Most of what's on is just pure drek and filth for vulgar titilation.

 



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I'm not much of a sports fan, but I do find the discrepancy between the two to be a bit... telling. If it were all about aerodynamics and ease of movement, then men would be in itty-bitty skin-tight things too, like the swimmers are.

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Well, it's beach volleyball, no? The origins of the game determine the clothing. American men's swimming trunks are kneelong loose shorts, and women's swimwear is a bikini (if you can afford it).  I don't see the discrepancy at all, except that there is a discrepancy in US beach wear in the first place. Had beach volleyball originated in Europe, men would paly in speedos. So there.



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I heard that the original olympic athletes were all nekkid.

They also ate lizard meat, and offered sacrifices to the god Zaius.

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Slim wrote: ...
They also ate lizard meat, ...
So THAT'S what happened to the dinosaurs Noah had on the Ark!



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limana wrote: Well, it's beach volleyball, no? The origins of the game determine the clothing. American men's swimming trunks are kneelong loose shorts, and women's swimwear is a bikini (if you can afford it).  I don't see the discrepancy at all, except that there is a discrepancy in US beach wear in the first place. Had beach volleyball originated in Europe, men would paly in speedos. So there.

**shudder**

Speedos, especially the bikini brief sort and men really aren't a good combination. :shock:

Maybe it's just because I'm a guy.

Visiting China several years back I'd taken my swimming trunks with me on the off chance we'd get to swim somewhere.  An occassion did arise, but upon getting to the changing room, a Chinese attendant wouldn't let me or my male teammate go to the pool.  We had a translator with us and he had a discussion with the attendant explaining that our trunks were what we typically wore in pools in the US, and would be fine in the pool.  The attendant thought we should be wearing speedos like all the other men there.  My teammate and I were about to get dressed again if we'd have been forced to wear speedos - and our females teammates were happy too that we weren't forced to wear speedos.

As for bikinis, they're not "the" swimwear for women.  There are full swimming outfits and nothing against women wearing shorts with the outfits. 

Just as the consumer has the choice to buy or not buy clothing like hip-hugger pants with low waist-lines and short shirts that will show off midriffs, so too does a consumer have a choice in a variety and combination of outfits they want to buy and wear to the beach. 

The same then applies in sports.

It could be said that typically men go to the beach sans shirts.  If that's the case, then the men playing beach volleyball at the Olympics should be w/o shirts too if they're going to follow the "origins" and typical wardrobe.



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I also shudder at  the idea of Speedos. Who wants to see a guy's genitals all outlined and exposed like that? Yuck. 



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Same goes for tights in general.

I used to ride a bicycle frequently thru my teens.  In fact, for almost a year it was my only form of regular transportation.  I even did a marathon, day race (110 miles - in about 11-12 hours).  I had (and still have) several pairs of cycling tights because, frankly, during long rides... you chafe.  But I could never bring myself to just wear the tights because I typically didn't ride for excercise, I rode for transportation (that often took me 5 to 30 miles from my apartment one way).  I wore shorts over the tights.

I still have some of the tights, but I use them in the winter as long johns.

Just as I get embarrased for the character/actor while watching "The Office", I find it sometimes disturbing watching ballet.

I am modest and I find it more appealing in others.



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Cajun wrote: It may have occured before, but on one of the more recent episodes my wife and I watched, they had to blur his crack as he was running idiotically and his pants fell enough to show his butt.  My wife was not amused.  She finds Ty generally annoying.  She dislikes his "soul patch", his continuous, hoarse and inane yelling, and plugs her ears when he says "Welcome home 'whoever' family, welcome home."  But she likes the show in general since it's a "good" show.

We really don't watch much tv, and when we do, we try to find "wholesome" entertainment.  Most of what's on is just pure drek and filth for vulgar titilation.

 


Not to derail this thread with more Ty conversation, but what your wife dislikes about Ty is what I find most endearing. I like high energy people. I'm a fairly up-beat person, kind of a cheerleader type.

Of course, being in any kind of relationship with Ty, if he's really like that in person, would probably drive me to drink again after a very short while. lol. I can see myself on the first day my coffee doesn't brew just right ... I'd probably shove that mega-phone right down his adorable throat!

I do agree that it's a wholesome show, and I really, really enjoy it. I always cry when the family finally gets a break in life and they see their new house for the first time. Let the builder pay off their mortgage, and I'm bawling. Good stuff!


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HardyHeaven wrote: Not to derail this thread with more Ty conversationAfter years of posting to blogs, message boards, chat rooms, etc., I rarely get upset by chased rabbits.  I figure it comes with the territory and I'm just as guilty of doing it on other people's threads as it's occured on mine.  As long as at least some discussion of the original topic has occured, I'm generally fine.I do agree that it's a wholesome show, and I really, really enjoy it. I always cry when the family finally gets a break in life and they see their new house for the first time. Let the builder pay off their mortgage, and I'm bawling. Good stuff!Did you read about one of the families whose home went into foreclosure?  Nitwits.  ABC and so many volunteers went in and gave them a new home (the biggest and most expensive I believe), and the morons went and decided to start a business, only they didn't have the capital to do so... therefore they got the bright idea to mortgage their newly given home so that they could start a business (a construction business I think).  Well, it flopped and they had no way to pay off their new mortgage.  Needless to say, many of those who were involved in helping that family are not happy.  I wouldn't be either if I were in the volunteer or donator's shoes.  Makes me wonder about how and why they got themselves into their situation in the first place that won over ABC to build for them.



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The only beach volleyball I've witnessed was in Brighton Beach, about 3 years ago. The men all wore Speedos, even overweight men. There were far more trim men than not. The neighborhood is predominantly Polish and Russan immigrants. It's a lovely memory and a lovely neighborhood, couples walking around with their children into the evening... very family oriented.

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Cajun wrote: I'm hearing some, from conservatives.  It'd be nice to hear some liberals, specifically women complaining about the degredation of women in sports.



As a conservative, my only complaint is allowing James Carville on our Olympic volleyball team.

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stiggywiggy wrote: Cajun wrote: I'm hearing some, from conservatives.  It'd be nice to hear some liberals, specifically women complaining about the degredation of women in sports.




On second thought, isn't that the Midnight Oil guy?

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Never heard of M.O. before.  James Carville though... that's funny.  Giving Louisianians a bad name for 16 years....

Actually, I thought the bald guy looked like an actor I'd once seen in a movie... Jeremy Williams in Carman's "The Champion".



And on the subject of clothes... Carville needs to put a veil over his face... that's one ugly looking dude... heh... reminds me of some of my distant kin! :shock:



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I for one would not mind if most of the women playing beach Volleyball were not so ugly.

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limana wrote:
Had beach volleyball originated in Europe, men would paly in speedos.

Even a bisexual atheist like me can say a prayer of thanks that beach volleyball did not, in fact, originate in Europe.

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lol

**shudder**

male toe... :shock:

either toe for that matter...



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Don't know where it started, don't really care. All I'm saying is, for women interested in spectator sports, Brighton Beach in the summer is a visual treat.

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