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NorrinRadd wrote: You've been one of my best friends here, so I'm sorry to see that we're probably not going to be able to find agreement on this.
Tha's ok. I feel the same way about you. It wont be posible to always see eye to eye on everything but it doesn't change how I feel about you.
Me still loves you.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 12:59 am |
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Sally-Anne wrote: And I'm sure that if some nutcase starting blowing up empty church buildings, or one of your loved ones was killed in a bungled abortion clinic bombing, you lot would quickly change your stance. But how could you? Blowing up empty buildings is only dumb and not terrorism so no-one needs feel terrified so I'm sure you lot would carry on as normal and not feel any alarm over it. Whatever.
People sometimes burn down churches and I don't even give it a second thought. Doesn't terrorize me a bit.
I lived in Colorado Springs when one Sunday morning a gunman shot up New Life Church (Ted Haggard's church before it was discovered he was sleeping with a male prostitute). I had only been to a couple of Sunday services (I didn't like them that much) but I went to a college-age service there on Friday nights sometimes. The shooting didn't bother me a bit (besides being sad for the victims' families) and I didn't feel even remotely terrorized. I went to the Friday night services just as I had before the shooting. Violence/destruction and terrorism simply aren't the same thing.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 01:01 am |
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J2R wrote: Sally-Anne wrote: And I'm sure that if some nutcase starting blowing up empty church buildings, or one of your loved ones was killed in a bungled abortion clinic bombing, you lot would quickly change your stance. But how could you? Blowing up empty buildings is only dumb and not terrorism so no-one needs feel terrified so I'm sure you lot would carry on as normal and not feel any alarm over it. Whatever.
People sometimes burn down churches and I don't even give it a second thought. Doesn't terrorize me a bit.
I lived in Colorado Springs when one Sunday morning a gunman shot up New Life Church (Ted Haggard's church before it was discovered he was sleeping with a male prostitute). I had only been to a couple of Sunday services (I didn't like them that much) but I went to a college-age service there on Friday nights sometimes. The shooting didn't bother me a bit (besides being sad for the victims' families) and I didn't feel even remotely terrorized. I went to the Friday night services just as I had before the shooting. Violence/destruction and terrorism simply aren't the same thing.
Precisely. Terrorism has to have a goal - that is, change of government or government policy by the means of intimidation, violence and the fear of violence.
Which is precisely what the abortion clinic bombers are trying to do...
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 01:55 am |
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Aldaron wrote: J2R wrote: Sally-Anne wrote: And I'm sure that if some nutcase starting blowing up empty church buildings, or one of your loved ones was killed in a bungled abortion clinic bombing, you lot would quickly change your stance. But how could you? Blowing up empty buildings is only dumb and not terrorism so no-one needs feel terrified so I'm sure you lot would carry on as normal and not feel any alarm over it. Whatever.
People sometimes burn down churches and I don't even give it a second thought. Doesn't terrorize me a bit.
I lived in Colorado Springs when one Sunday morning a gunman shot up New Life Church (Ted Haggard's church before it was discovered he was sleeping with a male prostitute). I had only been to a couple of Sunday services (I didn't like them that much) but I went to a college-age service there on Friday nights sometimes. The shooting didn't bother me a bit (besides being sad for the victims' families) and I didn't feel even remotely terrorized. I went to the Friday night services just as I had before the shooting. Violence/destruction and terrorism simply aren't the same thing.
Precisely. Terrorism has to have a goal - that is, change of government or government policy by the means of intimidation, violence and the fear of violence.
Which is precisely what the abortion clinic bombers are trying to do...
Yes, I have to agree with Declin.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 01:57 am |
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J2R wrote: Sally-Anne wrote: And I'm sure that if some nutcase starting blowing up empty church buildings, or one of your loved ones was killed in a bungled abortion clinic bombing, you lot would quickly change your stance. But how could you? Blowing up empty buildings is only dumb and not terrorism so no-one needs feel terrified so I'm sure you lot would carry on as normal and not feel any alarm over it. Whatever.
People sometimes burn down churches and I don't even give it a second thought. Doesn't terrorize me a bit.
Arson is something that is more common than blowing up buildings, and no, arson doesn't terrorise me, but having lived around bomb blasts and the threat of them, they are terrifying.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 01:59 am |
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J2R wrote: New Life Church (Ted Haggard's church before it was discovered he was sleeping with a male prostitute).
WTH? 
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Sally-Anne wrote: Arson is something that is more common than blowing up buildings, and no, arson doesn't terrorise me, but having lived around bomb blasts and the threat of them, they are terrifying. YO: Where was this? The UK? NZ??
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 06:18 am |
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Aldaron wrote: ...
Precisely. Terrorism has to have a goal - that is, change of government or government policy by the means of intimidation, violence and the fear of violence.
Which is precisely what the abortion clinic bombers are trying to do...
I'm impressed with your Pylean aura-reading skills that allow you to state so certainly and unambiguously the intentions of the abortuary bombers.
Strange, though, that it is usually the atheists that bark out the, "Oh, so you think you can read our minds?" line at Christians who allude to Scripture that suggests that unbelievers are "suppressing" their own knowledge of the truth that God exists.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 07:47 am |
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NorrinRadd wrote: Aldaron wrote: ...
Precisely. Terrorism has to have a goal - that is, change of government or government policy by the means of intimidation, violence and the fear of violence.
Which is precisely what the abortion clinic bombers are trying to do...
I'm impressed with your Pylean aura-reading skills that allow you to state so certainly and unambiguously the intentions of the abortuary bombers.
Strange, though, that it is usually the atheists that bark out the, "Oh, so you think you can read our minds?" line at Christians who allude to Scripture that suggests that unbelievers are "suppressing" their own knowledge of the truth that God exists.
So you don't think there is a pro-life agenda to outlaw abortion?
Wow...news to me.
ETA: Besides, I'm not Pylean...I don't need them to sing.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 11:49 am |
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Torquemada wrote: Sally-Anne wrote: Arson is something that is more common than blowing up buildings, and no, arson doesn't terrorise me, but having lived around bomb blasts and the threat of them, they are terrifying. YO: Where was this? The UK? NZ??
London when the IRA were active.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 11:55 am |
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Aldaron wrote: NorrinRadd wrote: Aldaron wrote: ...
Precisely. Terrorism has to have a goal - that is, change of government or government policy by the means of intimidation, violence and the fear of violence.
Which is precisely what the abortion clinic bombers are trying to do...
I'm impressed with your Pylean aura-reading skills that allow you to state so certainly and unambiguously the intentions of the abortuary bombers.
Strange, though, that it is usually the atheists that bark out the, "Oh, so you think you can read our minds?" line at Christians who allude to Scripture that suggests that unbelievers are "suppressing" their own knowledge of the truth that God exists.
So you don't think there is a pro-life agenda to outlaw abortion?
Wow...news to me.
ETA: Besides, I'm not Pylean...I don't need them to sing.
There's a pro-choice agenda for abortion, that's for sure, and the holocaust in killed unborns is their version of "terrorism." Terrorism of the unborn, the defenseless one who is not even protected by law. Pro-choice really means pro-kill, otherwise why the need to keep killing unborns to further that agenda? It's a choice to kill and that's all it is, why pretend it's even a "choice."
Abortion is the cost for furthering the pro-choice agenda, paid on blood, and at nearly 50million killings, the numbers that have been hurt in abortion clinic bombings pales in comparison. And yes, I still think bombing abortion clinics is terrorism, and so is abortion only its legal which is sick.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 12:14 pm |
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Sally-Anne wrote: Aldaron wrote: NorrinRadd wrote: Aldaron wrote: ...
Precisely. Terrorism has to have a goal - that is, change of government or government policy by the means of intimidation, violence and the fear of violence.
Which is precisely what the abortion clinic bombers are trying to do...
I'm impressed with your Pylean aura-reading skills that allow you to state so certainly and unambiguously the intentions of the abortuary bombers.
Strange, though, that it is usually the atheists that bark out the, "Oh, so you think you can read our minds?" line at Christians who allude to Scripture that suggests that unbelievers are "suppressing" their own knowledge of the truth that God exists.
So you don't think there is a pro-life agenda to outlaw abortion?
Wow...news to me.
ETA: Besides, I'm not Pylean...I don't need them to sing.
There's a pro-choice agenda for abortion, that's for sure, and the holocaust in killed unborns is their version of "terrorism." Terrorism of the unborn, the defenseless one who is not even protected by law. Pro-choice really means pro-kill, otherwise why the need to keep killing unborns to further that agenda? It's a choice to kill and that's all it is, why pretend it's even a "choice."
Abortion is the cost for furthering the pro-choice agenda, paid on blood, and at nearly 50million killings, the numbers that have been hurt in abortion clinic bombings pales in comparison. And yes, I still think bombing abortion clinics is terrorism, and so is abortion only its legal which is sick.
You people are "pro-kill" as well. You oppose stem-cell research that could save thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of lives. You oppose the destruction of a clump of two-dozen undifferentiated cells in order to further your agenda of allowing victims of Huntingtons Disease, Parkinsons Disease, etc to die.
The incurability of these diseases is the cost for furthering the pro-life agenda, paid in blood, in innumerable and probably incalculable numbers.
Wow? Geez, it's so easy to make up shit about what your opponents think and feel and want.
I should have tried it years ago...
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 12:25 pm |
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Aldaron wrote: Sally-Anne wrote: Aldaron wrote: NorrinRadd wrote: Aldaron wrote: ...
Precisely. Terrorism has to have a goal - that is, change of government or government policy by the means of intimidation, violence and the fear of violence.
Which is precisely what the abortion clinic bombers are trying to do...
I'm impressed with your Pylean aura-reading skills that allow you to state so certainly and unambiguously the intentions of the abortuary bombers.
Strange, though, that it is usually the atheists that bark out the, "Oh, so you think you can read our minds?" line at Christians who allude to Scripture that suggests that unbelievers are "suppressing" their own knowledge of the truth that God exists.
So you don't think there is a pro-life agenda to outlaw abortion?
Wow...news to me.
ETA: Besides, I'm not Pylean...I don't need them to sing.
There's a pro-choice agenda for abortion, that's for sure, and the holocaust in killed unborns is their version of "terrorism." Terrorism of the unborn, the defenseless one who is not even protected by law. Pro-choice really means pro-kill, otherwise why the need to keep killing unborns to further that agenda? It's a choice to kill and that's all it is, why pretend it's even a "choice."
Abortion is the cost for furthering the pro-choice agenda, paid on blood, and at nearly 50million killings, the numbers that have been hurt in abortion clinic bombings pales in comparison. And yes, I still think bombing abortion clinics is terrorism, and so is abortion only its legal which is sick.
You people are "pro-kill" as well. You oppose stem-cell research that could save thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of lives. You oppose the destruction of a clump of two-dozen undifferentiated cells in order to further your agenda of allowing victims of Huntingtons Disease, Parkinsons Disease, etc to die.
The incurability of these diseases is the cost for furthering the pro-life agenda, paid in blood, in innumerable and probably incalculable numbers.
Wow? Geez, it's so easy to make up shit about what your opponents think and feel and want.
I should have tried it years ago...
50 million dead babies to further the "pro-choice" agenda. I don't even know anything about stem cell research so you must be talking to someone else. Meanwhile, 50 million dead unborns furthering your pro-KILL agenda.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 12:29 pm |
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50 million dead babies to further the "pro-choice" agenda. I don't even know anything about stem cell research so you must be talking to someone else. Meanwhile, 50 million dead unborns furthering your pro-KILL agenda.
See, this is why I was arguing with Stiggy over the use of emotion-laden terms.
There are not "50 million dead wittle babies", so you can stop wringing your hands. There are 50 million (if that figure is accurate - pro-lifers aren't exactly known for sombre precision) dead embryos and foetuses that had fewer neural connections than a goldfish.
So let's just be accurate here. Painting images of fifty million dead babies in bonnets and jumpsuits might suit the accuracy level of the average pro-lifer, but it's absurd hyperbole.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 12:34 pm |
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Meanwhile, 50 million dead unborns furthering your pro-KILL agenda.
Let me just fetch my SS jacket and swastika flag, and a portable dinner plate so I can eat all those babies! Yeah! I'm a pro-KILL sonofabitch who gets off on seeing millions of dead little babies being dumped in the trash!
That's me!
And you wonder why I want to approach the abortion debate rationally. I'm starting to think it simply can't be done, because you lot start foaming at the mouth the moment the issue comes up.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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Sally-Anne wrote: London when the IRA were active.
Summer of 2001, the neighborhood I stayed in, Shepherd's Bush had just had an IRA bombing prior to my arrival, and in a nearby town a subway station was bombed and there was an IRA bomb threat one Sunday at Hyde Park while we were at Speaker's Corner. I was more concerned with the Muslims who got physically intimidating with me than the IRA.
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