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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 02:47 am |
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Merlin wrote: Getting your girl back won't solve the problem of christianity not working for you.
But it's what I want. You asked me what I want, and that's what I want right now. I'm not going to sit here shuddering and crying like an old lady that's tripped over the curb. I'm going to take action.
It's hard to explain, Merlin, but if you knew the fuller context, God and Christianity are actually a big part of the picture.
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 02:48 am |
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PearlsSand2 wrote: And to Yoda....just rest (in the Lord).
Rest.
God is "I am" --ever present/ever in the present moment with us. Stay in the present moment with Him-- if you find your thoughts begin to trouble you, learn to receive from the Lord, in that moment, too.
Replace the troubling thoughts as you keep your mind stayed on Him. Replace with:
I receive your presence, your peace, your love, your healing, your care for my soul. Surround yourself with heavenly music, which focuses on Jesus, to help lift your soul out of the confusion and darkness into His light.
Stop holding on to the worry, the fear, the regrets, the torment. Leave all of that at the foot of His cross, and let it be replaced with His peace.
I receive....(tell your mind what it will and will not receive this way).
Thanks Pearls.
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 07:03 am |
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You're going back and forth between your religion and your gf and I think you're feeling emotions from one and thinking it's the other. I really can't see what being christian has to do with getting your gf back, unless she dumped you for being a heathen.
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 07:37 am |
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Torquemada wrote: So fuck despair. I'm not giving up on hope.
Hope is, by far, the better choice. 
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 11:27 pm |
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Merlin wrote: You're going back and forth between your religion and your gf and I think you're feeling emotions from one and thinking it's the other. I really can't see what being christian has to do with getting your gf back, unless she dumped you for being a heathen.
It has to do with how I respond. Christianity for me is about choosing love over bitterness, life over death, and hope over despair. This isn't just someone I'm chasing for tushy; this is someone I love. Big difference, and that will shape how I respond to the situation.
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 11:45 pm |
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You know, the weirdest things cheer me up. Finntroll, anyone? 
That 'oompa' beat behind the metalhead yelling is just so cheerful....
http://beemp3.com/go_r.php?url=76a25e76759c699ab87ec5bc4426b845&file=5001466&scuk=6414526
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 01:02 am |
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So one has to be a christian in order to respond in a good way instead of bitterness or anger?
That's ridiculous, Yoda.
It's sad that if someone takes away your crutch of christianity, there's nothing left at all. You're just empty except for christian rules.
What about YODA? Is he just an empty bag to be filled with religion, or does he have his own values and character?
IOW, why do you have to have christianity tell you how to act? Don't you have any morals of your own?
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 12:31 am |
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PearlsSand2 wrote: I met one and even lived with him and his wife (the pastor who took me in at 16).
He was totally credible and the life he lived as God directed his path, helped even me.
The Lord spoke to him in an audible voice.
Really? Did he claim that god spoke to him audibly? Is that how you "know" he did?
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 06:24 am |
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God speaks to me all the time.
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 06:26 am |
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Pastor Phil wrote: God speaks to me all the time.
Really, Pastor Phil? What does God sound like?Last edited on Sat Sep 5th, 2009 06:26 am by Truman
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 06:34 am |
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Truman wrote: Pastor Phil wrote: God speaks to me all the time.
Really, Pastor Phil? What does God sound like?
Rex Allen.
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 07:08 pm |
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I don't know about you, Yoki, but I find something wrong when one christian is trying to score brownie points with god to get his girlfriend back and another one is claiming god spoke out loud to her boss and she's knows it's true because her boss said so.Yoda's motivation for living a christian life is wrong and Pearl's boss is probably nice, but confused.
I never have heard either of them (or any other christian here) speak of evangelising anyone or ever leading a single person to a relationship with Jesus.
It amazes me that christians completely lose sight of what they are saved for.
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 02:22 am |
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yoki wrote: PearlsSand2 wrote: I met one and even lived with him and his wife (the pastor who took me in at 16).
He was totally credible and the life he lived as God directed his path, helped even me.
The Lord spoke to him in an audible voice.
Really? Did he claim that god spoke to him audibly? Is that how you "know" he did?
Yes, he told me about it, among other things, when I lived with him at the church for that year. His entire rest-room lit up where he was simply shaving his face and the Lord spoke to him in an audible voice. And I believed him 100 percent.
The one thing I remember asking him at the time was this: What does His voice sound like? (You know those impressions some of us have in our minds of a thundering strong male voice--that's what I was thinking.  )
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 03:11 am |
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Yes, he told me about it, among other things, when I lived with him at the church for that year. His entire rest-room lit up where he was simply shaving his face and the Lord spoke to him in an audible voice. And I believed him 100 percent.
The one thing I remember asking him at the time was this: What does His voice sound like? (You know those impressions some of us have in our minds of a thundering strong male voice--that's what I was thinking. )
Not to be rude, Pearls, but people claim god speaks to them all the time. It isn't that rare of an occurance. Your friend's claim that his living room lit up and god spoke to him is just another subective experience that can't be replicated or proven in any way.
People also claim that german shephards speak to them.
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 03:12 am |
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PearlsSand2 wrote: yoki wrote: PearlsSand2 wrote: I met one and even lived with him and his wife (the pastor who took me in at 16).
He was totally credible and the life he lived as God directed his path, helped even me.
The Lord spoke to him in an audible voice.
Really? Did he claim that god spoke to him audibly? Is that how you "know" he did?
Yes, he told me about it, among other things, when I lived with him at the church for that year. His entire rest-room lit up where he was simply shaving his face and the Lord spoke to him in an audible voice. And I believed him 100 percent.
The one thing I remember asking him at the time was this: What does His voice sound like? (You know those impressions some of us have in our minds of a thundering strong male voice--that's what I was thinking. )
That is a nice story Pearls. Like I said, I have known others who claimed such things too.
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 04:38 am |
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God always sounded like Rex Reed when he was talking to me,...
but he never said anything interesting. C'ept the time he told me I was putting too much sage in the breakfast sausage.
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 04:43 am |
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 04:18 am |
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"Not to be rude, Pearls, but people claim god speaks to them all the time. It isn't that rare of an occurance. Your friend's claim that his living room lit up and god spoke to him is just another subective experience that can't be replicated or proven in any way.
People also claim that german shephards speak to them." -Merlin
I realize that and also, I don't find your comments rude at all, Merlin. It's par for the course, really. I know most people would not believe it even should the Lord have spoken to a person, audibly. -And it wasn't his livingroom, it was his restroom. ! And that wasn't the only time, either.
It's not even that he was my friend, (although he was in the most profound way a friendship could be) --he became a second father to me. Took me in @ 16...came right to the home I was then living in (drug dealers/sexual abuse) and brought me to his home. Taught me the things of God, lived in such a way, in the Lord's presense, which I witnessed, that there was no room for doubt in my heart and mind, that the Lord had saved, even me, and brought me to a wonderful place to live with two of His finest representatives on earth. I saw what the Lord did through his ministry/life/love. I experienced the true mercy of the Lord through this man's gifts and life, from God.
I am as sure of that as I am of my own name. You, yoki, and others may not believe me, or him. That just speaks to the fact that some of us are believers, and some of us are not....yet.
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 08:01 am |
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That just speaks to the fact that some of us are believers, and some of us are not....yet.
What condescending tripe is that? Yoki and I are not believers....yet? I was saved and in the church when you were in diapers, Pearls. So was Yoki, so stop trying to rationalize "ex-christian" as "never was christian." That's bullshit.
I have a question for you: why did god save you?
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 02:38 pm |
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PearlsSand2 wrote: I am as sure of that as I am of my own name. You, yoki, and others may not believe me, or him. That just speaks to the fact that some of us are believers, and some of us are not....yet.
Pearls, I was a believer at one time. However, after seeing the light, I came to reject the Christian concept of god. Jehovah and Jesus are in the same category as Zeus and Hercules, as far as I am concerned. Gods, father gods and sons of gods - figments of active imaginations, and hardly the same mind and spirit behind this creation we find ourselves in.
In other words, Jehovah and Jesus are as false as are Zeus and Apollo or Hercules. I am a theist, but I cater to the one and only true God who does not speak to mankind in an audible voice because... well, God really has nothing to say to us.
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