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Merlin
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 12:31 am |
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OK, you wanna name your "half a dozen" people so they can tell me what they told you? Carol, the comments were made here on AARM by people who had read your board. I know thet Gayle, Aldaron, Yoki and HardyHeaven all told me the same thing. When Toni started the boards last year you were being horrible to me. You poor baby, I was mean to you, so you had to go hide and talk shit behind my back instead of to my face. That was actually part of the reason she started the boards so I could have a pleasant place of respite. *rolls eyes* Yes, I complained about you a bit back then. And you're still at it, go figure. However, you really haven't been the topic of much conversation in awhile. Yeah, there's only so much you can say about how mean Merlin is before you start sounding like 8th graders comlaining about a mean teacher. I also remember our pleasant PM rapport which took place not too long ago here. And if you'd stop using the boards for you and hiram to tag-team and insult people, you might find general conversation more pleasant. Perhaps I had a little to drink that night and was in the mood for some pleasant chit chat which you were not giving me publically on the boards, but were more than willing to indulge via PM. It was me who reach out to you, not vice versa. If you talk to me in a civil manner, I'm more than willing to return the favor. If you insult me, I'm more than willing to return that favor, too.
I just go with the flow, carol. That's not a hard concept to understand.
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Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 12:41 am |
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Merlin wrote: OK, you wanna name your "half a dozen" people so they can tell me what they told you? Carol, the comments were made here on AARM by people who had read your board. I know thet Gayle, Aldaron, Yoki and HardyHeaven all told me the same thing. When Toni started the boards last year you were being horrible to me. You poor baby, I was mean to you, so you had to go hide and talk shit behind my back instead of to my face. That was actually part of the reason she started the boards so I could have a pleasant place of respite. *rolls eyes* Yes, I complained about you a bit back then. And you're still at it, go figure. However, you really haven't been the topic of much conversation in awhile. Yeah, there's only so much you can say about how mean Merlin is before you start sounding like 8th graders comlaining about a mean teacher. I also remember our pleasant PM rapport which took place not too long ago here. And if you'd stop using the boards for you and hiram to tag-team and insult people, you might find general conversation more pleasant. Perhaps I had a little to drink that night and was in the mood for some pleasant chit chat which you were not giving me publically on the boards, but were more than willing to indulge via PM. It was me who reach out to you, not vice versa. If you talk to me in a civil manner, I'm more than willing to return the favor. If you insult me, I'm more than willing to return that favor, too.
I just go with the flow, carol. That's not a hard concept to understand.
This maybe none of my business but I don't care and I'm going to say what I'm going to say because I see this shit and am amazed by it.
GET A FUCKING LIFE ALL OF YOU!!
It is just a stupid internet discussion forum. For once in your life, turn off the computer and go outside... Breath the fresh air, enjoy the green grass on the ground, and the birds chirping in the distance. It will do you all some good to realize that there is actually a world and people outside the computer. Also understand and realize there is more to life than sitting behind a computer screen and bitching back and forth with pixellated text. You people have just demonstrated that you have absolutely no life whatsoever.
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Merlin
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 01:04 am |
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You're a made-up person, "Baron." Made up by a person who has made up close to 50 made-up personalities that post 24 hours a day on AARM and god knows where else.
You're not exactly an expert witness on "life."
As far as going outside, it's 97 degrees so I think I'll stay in my one air-conditioned room as much as I can, by my computer, where I'm teaching myself myself a whole semester course in Algebra in a week, to get ready for the 13 credit hours of college classes I start in 10 days along with a new fulltime job managing a cafe at a local City Hall. Along with taking care of all my animals and a household.
Closing in on 60, I'll bet money I can run rings around you and anybody here but yeah, I'll try my damnedest not to be so lazy, just for you.
Now butt the fuck out of my conversation with carol.
Last edited on Tue Aug 18th, 2009 01:13 am by Merlin
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HardyHeaven
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 06:08 am |
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Carol2 wrote: It was nice of Gayle to invite me after holding a grudge for so long ...
These are the kinds of statements that have soured me towards you, Carol.
There is always a sub-text inside the text with you.
You can't just say, "It's nice of Gayle to invite me."
Or, "It's nice of Gayle to invite me after the nasty way I treated her."
No.
There's always a back-bite somewhere with you ... it's as though you think you're being nice, but that you are simply incapable of truly seeing your own role in things.
The PM you sent me, for instance, after your secret comments were discovered, slamming me, Gayle, Candace, Limana and others ... you said, "I'm sorry your feelings are hurt because we didn't invite you."
You come off like you're apologizing, but really you're A) displacing responsibility for your behaviour on someone else, and B) pretending to be clairvoyant.
It's kind of like the "when did you stop beating your wife" falacy, and it's a constant with you.
I've tolerated your behavior for years, though it's always rubbed me the wrong way. Your attacks on Candace, Limana, Gayle, Aldaron and others were the final straw.
You can now tell yourself that there's something wrong with me, that I'm "unbalanced" perhaps, or that I'm holding a grudge, or whatever rationalization you have to come up with in your mind so that, somehow, it's everyone else's fault. There's a pathology there somewhere, and it's very strange to witness, but you never fail to display it. It's an internal dishonesty, a true lack of genuine humility, that probably contributes to your continued drug and alcohol abuse, and your continued denial of such.
I wish, for your sake, that you'd take some time off, and try to really pray, meditate, and to humbly ask God to reveal Himself to you. Try to look for your role in things, and then come back and apologize. You might be surprised at the way people can forgive someone who displays a truly repentant heart.
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HardyHeaven
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 06:32 am |
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jratcliff wrote: Just an update on what is going on here at AARM. As many of you know, I was screwing around with permissions these past couple of days.
I first separated people into groups and gave each group restricted access to the forums. This was active only for a few hours, and then I gave everyone equal access to the entire forums again. (In the process I did delete a couple of the old forums which were rarely ever used. I figure we have enough forums here and they were not really necessary.)
Next I arbitrarily, and randomly, changed the 'group' assignments of people, hoping they would figure out that it didn't really matter what group they were in; thus trying to push the lesson of the sneetches finally home.
Lastly, and this is the only thing that is really important. I came across a post of Manofire and another by J. Sloan which was filled with the most unbelievable level of hate, vitriol, and personal attack I have read in a long time.
After having just been trying to send people a signal they ought to be a little more civil with each other, this I decided was just too much.
What was even more absurd is that J. Sloan had already asked to have his account deleted but, like a junky who has to come back for more, he just keeps logging in and creating hate and vile bile.
As of today, both Manofire and J. Sloan have extremely limited access to the forums. Everyone else is unrestricted as before and whatever group you may have been assigned is nothing more than an arbitrary string of ASCII text. It has no meaning.
Look, there are probably over 10 million message forums on the Internet where people can talk. In addition, any and all of your could each create ten forums of your own in ten minutes using publicly available free services.
I assume you hang out here out of habit or something else. I don't care if you keep talking here. But, it is my forum, and the last time it had to be shut down was due to claims of TOS violations.
I have personally had it with Manofire and J. Sloan. Feel free to have open debates and discussion but I reserve the right to restrict access to people who do nothing more than pour hate speech into this site.
If you think it is unfair that I restricted manofire and J. Sloan, well that's just fine. Go create your own forum. Doesn't bother me one bit, I could care less.
But I don't need to log into these forums and read the kind of outrageous hate speech I have read here lately.
Take it or leave it, I don't really care. And, I reserve the right to change my mind in the future. But, J. Sloan has already requested his account deleted (something I will not do). He should show some personal self restraint to simply not log in. And, I have reached the end of my patience with Manofire. Both can still post in one of the message forums here. And, both might possibly have alternate accounts I haven't discovered.
That's the way it is, August 16, 2009.
John
Since I've not been online much lately, I'd like to make an off-handed observation about your reference to The Sneetches, by Dr. Seuss.
If your attempt was to employ Seuss's book as a metaphor for AARM, it misses the mark, IMO.
In the Seuss book, the regular Sneetches were disenfranchised by the Sneetches with Stars for a number of reasons, namely class, status and wealth.
The experiment of Sylvester McMonkey-McBean (really, just a ploy to make money for himself), demonstrated that when you run the various Sneetches through the machine enough times (and charge them different rates to do it - ultimately taking everyone's wealth), eventually nobody can determine who were the regular Sneetches or who were the Sneetches with Stars in the first place. Thus, the moral of the story. If you equalize wealth and social status, everyone becomes the same, and there's nothing to fight about.
This would be an appropriate metaphor, for instance, if the disruption here at AARM were based on racial conflict, or on a disparity in wealth or social status. But that is not the case.
The reality is that no matter how many times you run certain AARMites through the 'machine' they are always recognizable to the rest of the community. This is due to their own behaviour, their attitudes, their manorisms, their bigotry and biases, and they way that they consistently treat other people.
In short, you can give every Sneetch on AARM a Star, and we'll still be able to recognize those who don't really get along with the rest of the group. 
**Smooches to the Sneetches**
HH
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Carol2
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 06:55 am |
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Merlin wrote: If you talk to me in a civil manner, I'm more than willing to return the favor. If you insult me, I'm more than willing to return that favor, too.
And vice versa.
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Carol2
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 07:01 am |
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Baron, I am perfectly capable of going outside for sunshine AND playing on the computer AND working full time AND keeping my house in order AND getting 8 hours of sleep AND even showering every single day (without even breaking a sweat  ).
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Carol2
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 07:03 am |
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Merlin wrote: Closing in on 60, I'll bet money I can run rings around you and anybody here but yeah, I'll try my damnedest not to be so lazy, just for you.
Men.
Btw, congrats on the new job!
Last edited on Tue Aug 18th, 2009 07:04 am by Carol2
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Carol2
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 07:18 am |
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HardyHeaven wrote: Carol2 wrote: It was nice of Gayle to invite me after holding a grudge for so long ...
These are the kinds of statements that have soured me towards you, Carol.
There is always a sub-text inside the text with you.
You can't just say, "It's nice of Gayle to invite me."
Or, "It's nice of Gayle to invite me after the nasty way I treated her."
No.
There's always a back-bite somewhere with you ... it's as though you think you're being nice, but that you are simply incapable of truly seeing your own role in things.
The PM you sent me, for instance, after your secret comments were discovered, slamming me, Gayle, Candace, Limana and others ... you said, "I'm sorry your feelings are hurt because we didn't invite you."
You come off like you're apologizing, but really you're A) displacing responsibility for your behaviour on someone else, and B) pretending to be clairvoyant.
It's kind of like the "when did you stop beating your wife" falacy, and it's a constant with you.
I've tolerated your behavior for years, though it's always rubbed me the wrong way. Your attacks on Candace, Limana, Gayle, Aldaron and others were the final straw.
You can now tell yourself that there's something wrong with me, that I'm "unbalanced" perhaps, or that I'm holding a grudge, or whatever rationalization you have to come up with in your mind so that, somehow, it's everyone else's fault. There's a pathology there somewhere, and it's very strange to witness, but you never fail to display it. It's an internal dishonesty, a true lack of genuine humility, that probably contributes to your continued drug and alcohol abuse, and your continued denial of such.
It's interesting, the different personalities we come by on the internet. Isn't it?
I wish, for your sake, that you'd take some time off, and try to really pray, meditate, and to humbly ask God to reveal Himself to you. Try to look for your role in things, and then come back and apologize. You might be surprised at the way people can forgive someone who displays a truly repentant heart. It's always good, for every one of us, to do a little reflecting from time to time.
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Merlin
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 07:45 am |
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congrats on the new job!
Thanks.... it's really only a place to putter around for a few hours a day while I try and finish this endless school. It's kind of a limited grill menu but I can whip up daily specials of whatever I want, so I should be happy.
I'm doing this as a favor to a friend of mine and the last time I did her a favor, I ended up managing a place for 5 years. I hope to have my RN license long before that.
But yeah.... I take care of a small zoo, take care of a house, go to school full time and except for the last little while I work full time while doing it and I need to get a life. Trust me that I have lived enough life for several people. It's not been exactly boring.
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Carol2
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 06:47 pm |
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| Limana, I read your link...looong link...and I couldn't find what you were referring to. In any case, whatever. Take me or leave me. That's all I've got to say. I think you and I just have personality clashes and my policy of not communicating with you has been working well since I implemented it long ago. I know you've got some good qualities and I'm sure you're a wonderful friend to the people whom you call your friends, but as for the two of us interacting on chat boards...not a good idea. Like I said, it's probably just a personality clash. I think I'll go back to my old policy now. Thanks for the link anyhow.
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Holy Chao
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Posted: Mon Oct 12th, 2009 04:15 am |
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I can create my own forum? kewl
I just need to learn a little programming language and network security then...
Not as easy a task for some as for others, believe it or not I'm a serious technophobe when it comes to that sort of stuff. We all need your help to keep this site running, just tell me who to off and I'll hypmotize 'em into a mental hospital.
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